SHRIMATI KESHARBAI SONAJI KSHIRSAGAR(Beed): Mr. Speaker, Sir, my Beed district is the most backward district and its population is more than 22 lakh. This is a drought prone district, Every year, 4 lakh local labourers go to other palaces in search of their livelihood.

There is no industry and and no Railway facility availabily here, why there is no development in the district while the policy of the government is to develop the backward districts. A survey, in respect of Ahmednagar-Beed-Rarli has been car-

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ried out which should be sanctioned in this budget. If it is not developed, it will furthered to unemployment. While the survey has been carried out , why no provision has been made for it in the budget I would like to request to hon. Minister that in view of the survey conducted in the request of the said line, some provision for it should be made in the budget for this year.

SHRI ARVIND TRIVEDI (Sabarkantha): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a small demand regarding constriction of 56 kilometer of rail line. 16 years ago, the work regarding Keparvanj Morse was started but A is not completed till data. Every year, by sanctioning a small amount of rupees one thousand, the Government is making a fun of this area and there is no progress on this project. Mr. Speaker, Sir, through you, I request the hon. Minister to complete Kaparvanj Morasa Railway project immediately.

SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI (Robertaganj): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to express my views in brief. Since long I have been requesting to the Government for introducing a new train from Shaktinagar or Renukut to New Delhi but my request has not been fulfilled in so I want that this request of mine should be fulfiled in this Budget, The railway line from Reeva to Satna is ready and a line from Mirzapur to Reeva should also be constructed like wise. The Renukut-Shaktinagar rail line should be electrified. Varanasi Express should be run from Gorakhpur to Shaktinagar on Renukut railway station. A sleeper factory should be established in Mirzapur, Sonbhadra. I also want to attach you attention towards one more important point that the 148 Bighar of plot No. 170/2 or224/61and belonging to Eastern Railway in village Jokahi.

tehsil Dudhi. district Sonbhadra. has been illegally occupied by Hindalco, which should be immediately got vacated. Likewise, railway land at another placed is also being occupied by the people and it requires a great amount of attention . The land at Chopan railway station is also being occupied illegally. The Deluxe train should be No. 2 Bill 1993 496

given a half at Mirzapur and reservation quota for all the classes in every train passing through Mirazpur should be provided.

[English]

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): Sir, on behalf of the hon.

Minister for Commerce and on my behalf and on behalf of the people of the Birbhum District in West Bengal, I would request the hon. Railway Minister to expedite the work of the doubling of the line between Khana and Sainthia. You have approved the proposal but, the release of funds is so little that no work is being done. It is only a cosmetic thing.

Therefore, I earnestly request you to please do that. Otherwise, the Commerce Minister will take action aganist you and also the Deputy Chairmen of the Planning Commission.

[Translation]

SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: Mr. Speaker, Sir, there are lot of problems but I would like to to draw your attention towards two points. The people of my constituency have been Demanding for introduction of a new train from Bareilly to Bombay, since long. It has been discussed many a times that there has been no positive response in this regard.

I request you to kindly include it in the present budget.

Secondly, the pantry cars, introduced after Ministries initrtives specially in Lucknow bound trains serve heavily substandard food. When asked for a complaint book, it is said that there is no complaint book. When asked why it is so. a pat reply comes that they are relative of the Minister. This is very humiliating for the hon.

Minister. The pantry cars which function.in Kashi-Vishwanth Express, is said to be of the relatives of the Minister. The passengers also make their remarks in this regard which brings ill-fame to the Min- ister. when we write letters to the Minister, he does not bother to reply the same. I would like to request the hon. Minister to clarity the

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position in this respect. Arrangements should be made to introduce a new rail service from Bareilly to Bombay.

SHRI C. K JAFFER SHARIEF: I do not have any relative.

[English]

SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (Panskura): Sir, I will seek just a clarification about my two eut motions and I am not repeating many others. Sir, the Fourth line from Howrah to this South Eastern Railway, upto Agra and the electrification of the Third line is very necessary. (Interruptions) The fourth line is very necessary.

Otherwise., how will they earn their revenue? Nothing has been said about it by the minister while he was replying.

I do also support all the other demands pertaining to West Bengal.

[Translation]

SHRI ASTHBHUJA PRASAD SHUKLA (Khalilabad): Mr. Speaker, Sir, survey had been done twice for the construction of Khalilabd balrampur rail line in my constituency. it was the last wish of he former minister of State, late Shri Shianarayan ji and the work was started by him only.

I would like to submit that funds for the construction of this railway line should be provided during he current financial year.

Since work on gauge conversion of Gorakhpur-Lucknow and Gorakhpur-Varanasi rail lines was completed all the laboureres have been rendered jobless. They had also staged a dharna. I would like to submit that these worksers should be immediately provided employment.

Conversion of Gorakhpur-Nautanva and Gorskhpur-Gonda rail lines has been a longstanding demand. Since the hon. Minister has stated that conversion work will be given priority. I would like to submit that funds should be provided for this work also in this

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yea's Budget.

SHRIMATI MALINI BHATTACHARYA (Jadavpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the first point that I would like to make IS regarding the extension of the metre railway in Calcutta. This has been given to the Urban Development Ministry row. The urban Development Minister naturaly has not the money to start the second phase of it. Therefore the State Government has made the suggestion that the Railway Minister should sit together with he urban Development Ministry and request the Planning Commission, of which the Vice Chairman is'present here, to make the necessary allotment for the extension of the metro line.

Mr second point is regarding the suburban services in the south section. I would like to say that because of the geographical situation in this part, the roads are very bad. Therefore if the rail services are not extended and if they are not improved the let particular of poor and odinary people who commite every day, is going to be more and more difficult., I therefore would like say that in this section the doubling of line and provision of passenger facility should be improved.

In the end,we are totally opposed to this Budget which is imposing the whole of its burden on poor and ordinary people by in- cresing the fregat and passenger fares. Therefore it is very unfortunate that we are not allowed to exercise our rights.

[Translation]

SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR (Dohad): Mr. Speaker, Sir, a lot of noise is made by them during the discussion on the Railway Budget. On that occation the hon. Prime Minister had promised to remove imbalances if any. In this year's budget noallocation has been made for Gujarat even form in or works. I would like to remind the hon. Prime Minister that railways are experiencing resources crunch. It Budgets are prepared for a period of ten years at a stretch areas predominantly tribals inhabited will remain neglected for yeas and the tribals will not get the railway for

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long. Since, funds have not been allocated for tribal areas, I request that efforts be made to allocate funds for these areas.

[English]

SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat): I want to draw the attention of the Railway Minister about the problems now being faced by the suburban commuters, particularly the northem section of the eastern railways between Shialda and Bongaon. (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : You should understand. A senior Membe like YOU also is insisting on speaking. (Interruptions)..

MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. It does not look nice.

(Interruptions)

[Translation']

DR. CHATTRAPAL SINGH (BULANDSHAHR): Mr. Speaker, Sir, district Bulandshahr forms a part of the National Capital Region. Many a thousand persons daily come to Delhi and Ghaziabad for attending to their Government serveis. However, no rail link is available between Blandi shrhr and Delhi. I would like to submit that hrpur shuttle train may be extended upto Khuraj Junction so that people of Khurga can easliy travel between Delhi and Khurja. Secondly, headquarters of Bulandshahr are not connected with lucknow, Bulandshahr distit should be provided a disrct rail link with the States capital Luckow.

(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: All of you give your points in writng, Otherwise it will be difficult to remmber while replying. What you people are saying will from part of the record. but it these points are given in wirting then the hon. Minister will give clarifications. (Inter- ruptions)

[English]

MR, SPEAKER: Mr. Minister you will assure them that you will reply to all their

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letters please.

(Interruptions)

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: Yes

[Translation]

AN HON. MEMBERS: Though I wrote twice I did no get any reply.

MR. SPEAKER: Listen all this is beyond limit. I is nice to remain within limits. I do appreciate your feelings and sentiments.

You give it in writing and the hon. Minister will reply within a month. (Interruptions)

[English]

MR. SPEAKER: This cannot go on like this. I have to raise my voice: then you are sitting down. It is not proper. You are all gentlemen, you should take the hints please.

[Translation]

SHRI BHIOGENDRA JHA (MADHUBANI): You referred to the Cut Motions, but I would like to say something else.

MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. this is against the dignity of Parliament.

SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Please do send wirtten relies of Cut Motions MR. SPEAKER: Shri Bhogendra Jha, please take your seat. I have already told him. I have to speak soudly that my turort has become hoarse

(Interuptions)

[English]

MR. SPEAKER: Please understand.

(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This not necessary.

DR. RAM CHANDRA DOME (Birbhum): Sir, many I have written to the Railway

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Minister; I did not get any reply from him. This time, I want to submit that in my Constituency an important railway line from Andal Junction to Azimanj Junction via Sain this was taken into consideration; but no commitment has been given regarding doubling and electrification

My second point is that one passenger train linking the district headquarters Suri with the State Capital Calcutta is a must.

(interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude.

(Interruptions)

PFOF. SUSANTA CHAKRABORTY (Howrah: I would like to draw the attention of the Railway Minister to the point that the Howrah-Amte; Howrah-Champand =Scakhala line was inaugurated long back, but the work on this line has not been completed. I would request him to look into the matter.

Secondly, there is a need for a fourth line between Howrah and Pasnskura and I would again request the Minister to take up he furtter course of action.

SHRI AJOY MUKHOPADYAY (Krishnagar): The Railway Minister. in the course of this reply told that the vietirrised employees the employees who ale dismissed will are-employed and no reinstated. If those employee are reemployment then they will lose their other benefits, So, I would urge upon the Minister that those employees should be reinstated and those who have died or superannuated, one of their family members should be given employment. (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Now, Mr. Minister may please rply. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: May I suggest to the Minister please? Now, whatever they have said is recorded. I am afraid that you may not be able to dwell upon each of the points which are recorded. Briefly, you can sum up. Please reply not only to the letters but also to

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the statements which they have made after taking the record, if it is agreeable to them and to you also.

SHRI BHOGNDRAJHA(Madhuabani): Cut-motions also.

MR. SPEAKER: Yes, cut-motions. Very good. Please accept the suggestion made by Shri Hogendra Jha also.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: All the cut-motions are here.

MR. SPEAKER: You will reply to this.

SHRI S.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: Do you want me to read?

MR. SPEAKER: In writing please..

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: Reply to cut-motions also is there.

MR. SPEAKER: so that quickly you can go to the other House.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: Okay. (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: You please address the Chair.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: As you are kindly aware and everybody in the House is aware, yesterday from 3 clock till this morning-6.25 everybody has participated in the debate.

SOME HON. MEMEBRS: No, no.

SHRI C.K. JAFFERSHARIEF: For those who were sleeping in their houses, no body is responsible. I must appreciate the presiding officers. Everybody was given the opportunity not a little opportunity. There was no time-limit.Everybody had his full say.

Those who were not here, unfortunately they want to take the opportunity even being not present yesterday. Those who participated, want to raise it again having said so. (interruptions)

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MR. SPEAKER: No response to interruptions please.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF; That is why I am just facing you.

Perhaps this problem, which every Railway Minister frees, will end from the next time because you have brought the Committee system.

They will be able to decide what they want. The problem is simple: do they want the project to be completed? If so, we cannot take up too many projects. (interruptions) Please bear with me. (interruptions) You had your say. Please allow me to say.

Do you want the projects to be completed? If you want any investment to be productive,you have to prioritie.You have to be a alestive. You must aim at that.Other wise this hue and cry will remain.The projects which have been taken upon the inaugurations or foundations laid, all will remain. This kind of hue and cry will continuce to be there.

I will take two glaring examples where Members should appeciate and have the consent of the States which may be getting something. I first come to my Kerala friends. They are my own party people. From the other side also, Shrimati Suseela Gopalan was making a lot of noise. The money that we are financing for the Konkan Railway-Mr.

Ram Naik asked this question and I am responding to it goes completely for the benefit of Keralitiesa as, which is about Rs. 1800 crore.

[Interruptions]

Please bear with me. where do you find money for the Konkan Railway project? I have been a Member of this House. it is not hat I am a Minister. I have been continuously a Member. The other Ministers have also participated in this. We have listende the budgets. Everybody wants everything at a time in their State eletrification, gauge conversions in new line, doubling.

For get that I am a Minister You step into my shoes and meet those requriements.

SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA (Kottayam): Nothings was given.

(Interruptions)

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SHRI C.K. JAFER SHAREIF: Konkan Railway we have given. In

addition to that, we have given/. We have taken up electrification and disabling.. We are continuing. What more do you want?

Interruptions)

Mr. Amal Datta, our Member from West Bengal referred to it.

There is underground railway which no other State had the privilage to have it. What is the money that we are spending. We have not even been able to complete it. You are already asking for the .network.

He should understand this issue. Should the other State,which do not should herb, not get anything? Where do we finedfunds for all these things? You want electrification, you want doubling, of lines, you want underground railway, you want this and you want that! Where does the money come from?

SHRI P.C. CHACKO (Trichur): Sir, this is very unfortunate.

MR. SPEAKER: He is not referring to you.

SHRI P.C. CHACKO: He mentioned about the Konkan Project. Unless the Shornur- Mengalore line is doubled, it will not benefit us.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: By the time Konkan Railway is completed we will certainly take care of that. Please bear with me.

Shri Ram Naik also referred to the Konkan project. He has stated that we have stopped the work and so on and so forth. There has been some controversy in Goa. We have not actually stopped the work.

There is a proposal for a realignment by which, it is possible to have the cost reduced by Rs. 80 crores! Rs. 80 crores is not a small amount. If we can save that, we can invest it somewhere and satisfy some more demands of the Members. The Prime Minister also advised us to have a quick look at it because if we are able to save Rs. 80 crore, that is quote an advantage. So, it is not as if we

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have sopped the work or given the project, We know that it is costly project. it is a timebound project and it is an important project.

All that we earned is to have this suggestion examined quickly and then to produce with the work. This is very important because we should not waste money. So are as Konkan Railway is concerned, that is all and there is no much to add.

Every body is aware that recently the hon. Prime Minister has been kind enough to inaugurate the first phase Udipi-Mangalore line.


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