SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR : It is a very sad incident again on the floor of this House. Firstly the Leader of the Opposition has levelled wild allegations against the State Government of Maharashtra. The subject matter was limited and restricted to the deportation of the Bengaldeshi people from Maharashtra to their own country. This was the limited subject matter. ...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed him.

SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR : I have also given notice and I am coming to that subject also.

He has taken full advantage of the situation and levelled allegations. Anyway, I leave it to his good sense because it is recorded over here; one can say no to that also.

Today I have given a notice for `Zero Hour' about one incident. But luckily it has come up in the House early. The incident was that a group of Bangladeshi people were deported to Bangladesh border and thereafter to Bangladesh. While the team of police accompanying these people were travelling towards the Bangladesh border, at one station - I do not remember the name of the station, it has been written in my notice - the mob, under the leadership of one of the MLAs - I do not know the name of that MLA also - had assaulted the police team and rescued.....(Interruptions) all the people who were supposed to be deported and they were set free. The police had to open fire in order to save their own lives. This was the incident which took place.

Subsequently a number of stories have come over here. Somebody said in the House that various ....Interruptions) You can say whatever you want.

MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed him; let him complete.

SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR : My only grievance is that after assaulting the police, all the people to be deported were set free and the police had to resort to some firing in order to protect themselves.

Secondly, while mentioning this subject matter in this august House, it has been alleged that in the State of Maharashtra, people from Bangladesh have been assaulted, people from West Bengal have been assaulted, people from Uttar Pradesh and other States have been assaulted. I do not know from where all these stories have been collected.

To the best of my knowledge, not a single person, on the basis of his province, on the basis of his language, has been assaulted. People have been well protected during their stay here. But prior to that, when the Leader of the Opposition was the Chief Minister in the State of Maharashtra, everyone knows the number of persons assaulted. Everyone knows what was the condition ...(Interruptions) of the State. At that time the Leader of the Opposition said in the House itself that if they were Bangladeshis, if they were Pakistanis, they would be deported.

This is what Shri Sharad Pawar said earlier in the House and I was also present in the House. `If Bangladeshi people are there, let me formulate a policy. (Interruptions) If they belong to Bangladesh, proper scrutiny will be done and, after the scrutiny, if at all it is proved that they are from Bangladesh, they will be deported. There are no two opinions on this. (Interruptions) Not only that, if they are Pakistanis, they shall not also be spared. They will be sent to various places.' (Interruptions) The problem as I see is that the ISI is very active. Even yesterday, there was a bomb blast in Delhi. (Interruptions) One bus was blown off and a number of people were seriously injured. The security of our country has come to such a stage and these people are raising the question of the security of the country.

Let me say that if they are national minded, we are also national minded people. If the security of this country has come to this stage, then, eventually, it is our utmost duty to see who are responsible and whether they have a right to stay in this country. We have to see that. There shall not be any compromise on the deportation of these foreigners. I am using the expression `foreigners' that is `Bangladeshis' and `Pakistanis' not anything else. (Interruptions)

Shri Somnath Chatterjee has said something about documents. But let me say that all these documents are fake documents and that they are wrong documents. There cannot be any point of argument or point of dispute on this question.

Thank you.

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... (ɴvx)

SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN : Sir, three hon. Members have already spoken on this topic. It has been discussed comprehensively. The hon. Minister is prepared to reply. (Interruptions) Let him give his reply and the topic should be closed.

SHRI VAIKO (SIVAKASI): Sir, there are other important issues also. (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed her to speak. Please take your seat.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI AKBAR AHMAD (AZAMGARH): Sir, please do not allow these interruptions.

MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI VAIKO : I agree that this is a serious issue. Similarly, I have sought your kind permission to raise another serious issue. I should be given permission to raise that.

MR. SPEAKER: I will allow you also.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN : Sir, the Minister is prepared to reply.

MR. SPEAKER: After she finishes, the hon. Minister of Parliamentary Affairs will give his reply.

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... (ɴvx)

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... (ɴvx)

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... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Madam, please take your seat. The hon. Minister will reply.

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... (ɴvx)

E֨ɮ ɪɴi : ɽ Vɶ E iɽi =xE >{ɮ Mɱn x E +ɮ{ ME =xE Mɱn Vx E Vɶ E V *

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MR. SPEAKER: I cannot allow all the Members to speak. Please take your seat.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This will not go on record.

(Interruptions) *

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... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Somnath Chatterjee, let the Minister complete the reply.

_____________________________________________________________________________

*Not Recorded.

nx ɱ J֮x : Exi < n E +xn Ec ʴn xMʮE ʤx Exx niɴV E ɮi * < n E xMʮE xɽ, =x Pֺ{` Ei * ɽɮɹ] ɮEɮ V EɮǴ< E , =E {ڮ Sx E Mɽ j V, E < nx +E +{x Eiɴ nM, BE i ɽ Ex Sɽi *

nںɮ, ɽ Ex E < nx BE M V xɽ Vɪ E ɽ <xx < nx E +xn Vx-ZE n M< * nx , V x + E, < n E +xn V xMʮE , =xE x-ɨx * < n E +xn Pֺ{` , ɽ x xɽ E, nɴ E ɦ , Vɺ ɨɪ xɮʺƽ ɴ V ɽ |vx j l, ExpҪ Mɽ j Sɴh V l, =xx < nx E +xn E l E ix J Mɱn < n + MɦM bg, n Ec Mɱn ɮ n Pֺ{` , ɽ < nx E Mɪ l* +vI V, Z n , 1992

... (ɴvx)

Vɤ n E ] ʱɺ] x*

Z +{x i Ex nVB* Z {ڮ i Ex nVB*

... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Chatterjee, please understand. Let the Minister complete the reply. ... (

ɴvx)

nx ɱ J֮x : +{x Z {ɮҶx n , x {ɹ] E n* ... (ɴvx) Z Ex n Vɪ*

... (ɴvx)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n (ɨɱ): +vI ɽn, j ɽn E i iֹ] xɽ * +i& il n nx E ʽEɮ Ei *

12.48 hrs.

BE n x E ʺli "il EU +x xxҪ n" ʨ]B*

(At this stage Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav and some other honourable members left the House.)

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12.50 hrs. (At this stage Shri Ajoy Chakravarti and some other honourable members came and set near the Table)

... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats. You cannot dictate terms like this. ... (Interruptions)

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... (ɴvx)

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... (ɴvx)

1251 hours

(At this stage, Shri Ajay Chakraborty and some other hon. Members

went back to their seats.)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Balram Jakhar.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, we want an assurance from the hon. Minister that no such action will be taken against them. ... (Interruptions)

SHRI PRAMOTHES MUKHERJEE (BERHAMPORE) : Sir, the Home Minister should come and make a statement. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: He has already said that the hon. Home Minister will make a statement.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : He has to make it today. ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: He has already said that the Home Minister will make a statement here. Please understand it.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Somnath Chatterjee, please understand; he has already said that the Home Minister is going to make a statement.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : That will be made tomorrow. We cannot accept it. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: The Home Minister is going to make a statement.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : But we want a categorical assurance from him. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: He has already given; the Home Minister is going to make a statement. He has already said that.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, let him assure. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Somnath Chatterjee, please understand. The Parliamentary Affairs Minister has already given an assurance that the Home Minister will make a statement here. Please understand.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : We want an assurance.

nx ɱ J֮x: E <bx ʺ]Vx E n xɽ xEɱ VBM*

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, we cannot accept it. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: He gave an assurance that the Home Minister will make a statement.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : We strongly protest against the action of this Fascist Government; and we walk out in protest.

12.53 hrs

(At this stage, Shri Somnath Chatterjee and some other

hon. Members left the House.)

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shri Balram Jakhar says.

(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER: I have already called Shri Balram Jakhar to make his submission. Madam, I have not called your name.

... (Interruptions)

Ҩi ڪEi {]ұ (ʽM) : <E ʴɮv E+=] Ei *

12.53 hrs.

(At this stage Shrimati Surya Kanta Patil then left

the House)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shri Balram Jakhar says.

(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER: The Parliamentary Affairs Minister has already given an assurance that the hon. Home Minister would make a statement here.

... (Interruptions)

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... (ɴvx)

nx ɱ J֮x: E <bx ʺ]Vx E n xɽ xEɱ VBM, ɽ E *

... (ɴvx)

ɨ ʴɱɺ {ɺɴx : Vɤ iE ʨxɺ] E Vɴɤ xɽ + VB

... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shri Balram Jakhar says.

(Interruptions)*

ɨ ʴɱɺ {ɺɴx (V{֮): <E ʴɮvɺɰ{ nx E+=] Ei *

12.54 hrs

(At this stage Shri Ram Vilas Paswan and Shri Jaipal Reddy then left the House)

... (Interruptions)

SHRI BUTA SINGH (JALORE): Sir, this is an action taken against the minorities. The Government of India is supporting the State Government. Therefore, we walk out in protest against the statement made by the Parliamentary Affairs Minister.

______________________________________________________________________________

*Not Recorded.

12.55 hours

(At this stage, Shri Buta Singh left the House.)

... (Interruptions)

SHRI E. AHAMED (MANJERI): This is against the minorities. I strongly protest against the statement made by the Minister for Parliamentary Affairs and walk out of the House...(Interruptions)

12.55 hours

(At this stage, Shri E. Ahamed left the House.)

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Balram Jakhar.

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... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Ramdas Athawale, this is too much. Please take your seat.

... (Interruptions)

ɨnɺ +`ɴɱ (֨< =iiɮ-v) : +vI ɽn, ɮ n E <]O] E ɴɱ ,

... (ɴvx)

12.56 hrs.

BE n x E ʺli "il EU +x xxҪ n" ʨ]B*

(Shri Ramdas Athawale then left the House)


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