MR.  SPEAKER :    We  are  accommodating everybody.  I will give you a chance.
Shri Naveen Patnaik to speak now.



THE MINISTER OF  STEEL  AND  MINES  (SHRI NAVEEN PATNAIK):  Mr.  Speaker, Sir,
after all of us have  won  a  general  elections.    So,  we  should  try  and
understand what a victory is about.  Perhaps the history of Orissa can tell us
a great  legend about victory.  A conqueror came to the battlefield of Kalinga
thousands of years ago and lay slaughter to tens of thousands of people.    At
dusk after the battle, a poor man came up to the emperor with an infant corpse
in  his hands and said "Can you give life to this dead child?" The emperor, we
all know, was Asoka and the poor man was a Buddhist monk.  After  the  victory
of  an  election,  it  is  time we changed like the emperor Asoka did for this
country which symbolises what he did, We should also stand by our voters,  who
are demanding   action   and   compassion.    We,  in  Orissa,  glory  in  our
multi-cultural and multi-religious heritage.  We are proud of  our  past  that
saw Government   by  communities  of  all  religions.    But  as  the  elected
representatives of our people, we know it is not our past that is  responsible
for good Government.   It is ourselves.  The massive mandate given to the Biju
Janata Dal by the people of Orissa was in response to our Party vow to reverse
the callous of neglect of successive Congress  Governments  in  Delhi  and  in
Orissa,  a  neglect which has perpetuated a continuing human tragedy where our
people are falling below the poverty line every year, where a mother is forced
to sell her child for a handful of rice, where more  than  half  of  our  able
bodied  men  have had to leave our State and work as labourers outside all the
way from Kashmir to Kerala.

17.00 hrs.

	The  State  Government  led by the Congress Party slept over the Human
Rights Commission's Report which speaks of starvation deaths in Orissa.  Until
I spoke of this in my maiden speech a few months ago.

	India  is  one  of the foremost exporters of food. Why, therefore, are
our people dying in the midst of plenty?


	The  Biju  Janata  Dal  asks  for  a Vote of Confidence in the present
Government because the National Agenda of the Bharatiya Janata Party  and  its
allies  ensures  food security for all - not in some distant future but in the
immediate future.  This Government also has made a promise...(Interruptions)

SHRI INDERJIT  SINGH  RAO (MAHENDRAGARH):  Sir, he is reading a prepared text.
When another Member was speaking, he was shouted down...(Interruptions)

SHRI NAVEEN PATNAIK:  I am quoting from the National Agenda...(Interruptions)

SHRI INDERJIT SINGH RAO :  He is reading a prepared text.    The  Minister  is
allowed to  read  the  text.  At least, the Minister is expected to be able to
speak extempore...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: He is making some points.

			... (Interruptions)

SHRI  NAVEEN  PATNAIK: In the National Agenda, it is stated quite clearly that
potable drinking water will be made available to all  the  villages.  This  is
critical for the State I come from...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER  :    I have not called you to speak. Please sit down. This is not
good. Take your seat.

			... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER :  This will not go on record.

			(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER :  Please take your seat. This is not good.

			... (Interruptions)

SHRI  NAVEEN PATNAIK: Also, the National Agenda is something which is critical
to our State, to the poorer States. Now I quote:

        
        "States,  where  the  percentage  of  the population has fallen
        below the povertyline, shall receive special attention."

	The  Biju  Janta  Dal  went  to the people of Orissa stating our goal.
Today, the National Agenda of this Government has acknowledged the aspirations
of the voters of Orissa and the goals of the Biju Janata  Dal  are  today  the
nation's goals. Our people have waited too long for this.

_ 

*	Not recorded.


	Our people in the State of Orissa have four great enemies.  They  are:
cyclone, floods,  drought  and  neglect.   The Biju Janata Dal is committed to
doing whatever is humanly possible in order to deal with the  four  of  these.
Neglect,  alas, has been there because of five decades of virtual Congress-led
State Governments in Orissa.

	Also, the National Agenda is going to do a  great  deal  of  good  for
irrigation which is critical to Orissa. 

	Mahatma  Gandhi  once  said that India is a nation of villages. It can
truly be said that Orissa is a State of villages...(Interruptions)

PROF.  P.J.  KURIEN :  Are you a Minister for Orissa?  ...  (Interruptions)

MR.  SPEAKER:  Please take your seat.  It is not good.

			...  (Interruptions)

SHRI NAVEEN PATNAIK:  Orissa is a delta State and has the potential to  become
a prosperous  State.    When  I speak of Orissa, I speak for many parts of our
country which are also extremely poor.  That is why, I speak for  Orissa.    I
also speak  here today as an ally.  We are going to seek a vote of confidence.
You must have some patience.

	The  great  leader of our party, the Biju Janata Dal, always stood for
women's upliftment.  He always said:   "If  women  are  cared  for,  then  the
village  prospers;  if  the village prospers, the State prospers; if the State
prospers, the nation prospers." I  hope  that  it  will  apply  to  the  whole
country.   As  I  say,  the National Agenda is committed to the reservation of
seats in Parliament and the State Assemblies for women, a development bank for
women and women's education.

	We  know  that  however  good  our  intentions may be, they have to be
carried through with hard work.  We, of this Government are convinced that  we
will go ahead and work for all the goals of the National Agenda.


	We ask for a vote of confidence in this Government of allies headed by
Prime Minister Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee.  We take pride in  saying  that  the
Biju  Janata  Dal stands before you as a part of the National Agenda, which is
not a hidden agenda.  Thank you.



SHRI MUFTI MOHAMMED SAYEED (ANANTNAG)




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MR. SPEAKER: Three more speaker are there. Please wind up.

SHRI MUFTI MOHAMMED SAYEED :  I would like to speak for some more time.






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MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude.





			
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MR.  SPEAKER :  Please take your seat.  This will not go on record.

			(Interruptions)*

MR.  SPEAKER :  I have not permitted you.  Please take your seat.

			...  (Interruptions)

SHRI MUFTI MOHAMMED SAYEED (ANANTNAG)




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Dialogue is the essence of democracy. (Interruptions)





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SHRI OMAR ABDULLAH (SRINAGAR): Can you prove those allegations? I ask you, can
you  prove  the  allegations  that you have made in this House? You have never
ever represented the people of Jammu and Kashmir. You  have  always  won  from
 *

*	Not recorded.

outside.  I ask you, how can you speak about Kashmir?  You have  never  spoken
for Kashmir and you never will.  As a Union Minister of Home Affairs, what did
you do?

MR.  SPEAKER:  It is not the duty of the Chair alone to control the House.  It
is the responsibility  of the Members also.  So, kindly cooperate with me.  It
is already 5.30 p.m.

			...  (Interruptions)

MR.  SPEAKER:  Shri E.   Ahmad,  please  do  not  disturb.    Your  Member  is
speaking.

			...  (Interruptions)



 SHRI G.M.  BANATWALLA (PONNANI):    Mr.    Speaker, Sir, thank you.  The Prime
Minister has sought the confidence of this House.  We oppose the Motion  moved
by the  Prime  Minister.   When one looks at this coalition Government, one is
struck by the glaring fact that an  air  of  total  unreality  surrounds  this
coalition Government  that  is over there.  An air of total unreality is there
with respect to the composition of the Government that is now in power.

	For example, Sir, a party, a hardcore anti-secular party has overnight
tried to emerge as a purely secular force.  What an unreality!  What an unreal
situation!  I need not refer to the long history ...  (Interruptions)  It  was
Guru Golwalkar who had said,

        
        "The non-Hindu people in Hindustan must either adopt the  Hindu
        culture and language or stay in the society wholly subordinated
        to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges,
        far  less  any  preferential  treatment  --  not even citizen's
        rights".

...  (Interruptions)  The  BJP's manifesto was released on 3rd February, 1998.
... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat.

			... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This will not go on record.





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