<b>XII LOK SABHA DEBATES, <i> Session I </i> </b>
XII LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session I Wednesday , March 25,1998 / Chaitra 4, 1920 (Saka)


Type of Debate: STATEMENT BY PRIME MINISTER
Title: Regarding natural calamity in West Bengal and Orissa on 24 March, 1998. TEXT : 12.49 hrs.

THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE): Sir, with your permission, I would like to make a brief statement on the natural calamity in West Bengal and Orissa.

Hon. Members may be aware of the devastation caused by the severe local weather phenomena known as Nor'wester or "Kal Baisakhi" which hit the coastal areas of West Bengal and Orissa, particularly the districts of Midnapore and Balasore, last night. Reports reaching us indicate that about hundred persons including children have lost their precious lives and a large number of people have been rendered homeless. We express our heartfelt sympathies to the people of the affected areas, specially those who have suffered bereavement and loss of property.

Considering the gravity of the calamity, I have already deputed a high level team consisting of the Minister of State for Agriculture, Shri Som Pal, and two Members of Parliament to tour the affected areas for getting a first-hand report.

I have also released Rs. 1 crore out of the Prime Minister's Relief Fund for providing immediate relief to the families of those who have lost their lives or who have suffered injuries. In addition, the Government is making an advance release of Rs. 10.20 crore to Orissa and Rs. 10.60 crore to West Bengal towards the Central Government's share of the Calamity Relief Fund.

The Government is awaiting reports from the State Governments giving details of the loss of life and the magnitude of the damage caused. As soon as the reports of the State Governments are received, further necessary relief would be provided.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Sir, I want to raise one query.

MR. SPEAKER: Let us now take up the next item, that is, papers to be laid on the Table. Shri Ram Naik.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Let the papers be laid.

SHRI MUKUL WASNIK (BULDHANA): Sir, in view of the grave situation in the State, the Government should immediately send a team headed by a Minister of State to visit all the affected places and to find out for itself the extent of damage done.

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SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Sir, we want to know as to who those two Members are.

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MR. SPEAKER: I will hear you later. First, let us take the item of papers to be laid on the Table.

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SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Mr. Prime Minister, who are those two Members who have been sent to West Bengal and Orissa?

MR. SPEAKER: Please be seated.

SHRI ACHARIA BASUDEB (BANKURA): Who are those two Members of Parliament?

MR. SPEAKER: When the Speaker is on his legs, you are supposed to sit. Please be seated.

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MR. SPEAKER: What is this? I am on my legs, please be seated.

SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (PANSKURA): We would like to know as to who those two Members are.

MR. SPEAKER: Please be seated.

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SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): I want to speak. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I will allow you later.

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Sir, I want to seek one clarification from the Prime Minister, that is, who those two Members are.

SHRI ANIL BASU (ARAMBAGH): We just want to know as to who those two Members are.

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MR. SPEAKER: I will give time to you. Please be seated.

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MR. SPEAKER: The Members are requested to please be seated. I will allow you. This is not good. I am on my legs, please be seated.

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MR. SPEAKER: This is not good, please be seated. I will allow you. This is not good.

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MR. SPEAKER : No. Please take your seats.

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12.55 hrs.

At this stage, Shri Anil Basu and some other hon. Members came

and stood on the floor near the Table.

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MR. SPEAKER : Please go back to your seats.

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MR. SPEAKER : Please go back to your seats.

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MR. SPEAKER : This is not good. Please go back to your seats.

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MR. SPEAKER : Please be seated.

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MR. SPEAKER : It is unfortunate that you are not taking your seats. How can you expect anything to be said if you do not take your seats? No. It is not good.

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MR. SPEAKER : You must give respect to the Chair.

12.58 hrs.

(At this stage, Shri Anil Basu and some other hon. Members

went back to their seats.)

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MR. SPEAKER : The Home Minister will address now.

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MR. SPEAKER : The Home Minister would like to speak now. The Prime Minister is on his legs.

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MR. SPEAKER : It is not good. Please be seated. The Prime Minister is on his legs.

13.00 hrs.

MR. SPEAKER : The Prime Minister is on his legs.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : If you do like this, it is not good. Please be seated.

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SHRI RAJESH PILOT (DAUSA): Please listen to us...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : It is not good. When I am on my legs, please be seated.

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MR. SPEAKER : What is this? When I am on my legs, please be seated.

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SHRI RAJESH PILOT : Sir, I have a submission to make. Please listen to us first. He has mentioned the problems. Let the hon. Prime Minister reply...(Interruptions) You are not listening to us and you are asking us to listen to the Prime Minister. This is not correct.

MR. SPEAKER : Shri Rajesh Pilot, you know all the procedures. First, please be seated. What is this? This is not good.

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MR. SPEAKER : Will you first sit down? This is not good.

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SHRI R.S. GAWAI (AMRAVATI): Sir, I have got a point of order...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : No. You are not supposed to talk like this. First, please be seated.

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (LUCKNOW)

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SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): There is another Member of Parliament, Shri Sudhir Giri, from Contai. His constituency has seriously been affected. Could you ever try to find out from him?...(Interruptions) Could you ever try to find out from the other Member?...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : This is not good. When the Prime Minister is on his legs, please be seated.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (LUCKNOW)

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SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): How was she selected?...(Interruptions)

13.04 hrs.

(At this stage, Shri Ram Chandra Dome and some other hon. Members came

and stood on the floor near the Table.)

MR. SPEAKER : Please go back go your seats. This is not good.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats.

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MR. SPEAKER: First, all of you should go back to your seats.

13.05 hrs.

(At this stage, Shri Ram Chandra Dome and some other hon. Members

went back to their seats.)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): Is this the way you conduct the House? I am requesting you to give me an opportunity because my State is suffering, Orissa is suffering. I deeply appreciate that you are making a reference to it. I appreciate the Prime Minister's statement. But it is a very serious matter that in a matter of natural calamity, this Government is practising politics...(Interruptions)

SHRI HARIN PATHAK (AHMEDABAD): We had informed your leader. The Prime Minister had informed Shri Indrajit Gupta but you did not respond...(Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): Although I appreciate that he has taken steps, yet the way he has done it shows that he is trying to play dirty politics and that too on a natural calamity. Therefore, I walk out in protest.

13.07 hrs.

(At this stage, Shri Somnath Chatterjee and some other

hon. Members left the House.)

SHRI MUKUL WASNIK (BULDANA)

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SHRI AJIT JOGI (RAIGARH)

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SHRI SHARAD PAWAR (BARAMATI)

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13.08 hrs.

(Shri SharadPawar and some other Members then left the House)

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Panja, please be seated. I will give you a chance later.

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SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY (MADURAI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am on a point of order. It is a matter of urgent public importance. The Home Minister is also here.

MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. I will give you a chance.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : Please listen to my point of order. I have given you a notice... (Interruptions)... Attack on the Press freedom is a very important issue... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Subramanian Swamy, please sit down. I will give you a chance to speak after the items in the List of Business are over.

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is as per your Directions. May I read out from your Directions that after the Papers are laid on the Table, it is the time for point of order... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I will give you a chance later.

SHRI HARIN PATHAK: But Papers are yet to be laid, Sir... (Interruptions)

SHRI AJIT KUMAR PANJA (CALCUTTA NORTH-EAST): Sir, I only want to know whether the Chief Minister of West Bengal and his Cabinet have gone to the spot or not. They have not gone there. They have got two helicopters... (Interruptions)...

Mamata Banerjee has gone there... (Interruptions)... But here, they have gone for lunch. They are hungry.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please.

Now, Papers to be laid.

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13.12 hrs.

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI RAM NAIK): Sir, I beg to lay on the Table:-

13.12hrs.

DEPARTMENTALLY RELATED STANDING COMMITTEES -- A REVIEW

SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the Hindi and English versions of the `Departmentally Related Standing Committees (1996-97) -- A Review.'

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SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY (MADURAI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, may I raise my point of order?... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Now, we take up item no. 5 -- The Interim Budget (Railways).

The hon. Minister, Shri Nitish Kumar.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI LALU PRASAD (MADHEPURA)

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MR. SPEAKER: I am calling Shri Nitish Kumar.

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : Sir, the point of order has to be taken up now... (Interruptions)

13.13 hrs. (At this stage Shri Surendra Yadav and some other Hon. members came and stood on the floor near the Table)

MR. SPEAKER: Please go to your seats first. I am asking the leaders to take their Members to their seats.

... (Interruptions)

13.14 hrs.

(At this stage Shri Surendra Yadav and some other members went back to their seats)

MR. SPEAKER: Now, Shri Nitish Kumar.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY (MADURAI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am on a point of order... (Interruptions)

SHRI KASHIRAM RANA (SURAT)

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MR. SPEAKER: Now, I am calling Shri Nitish Kumar and not you. Please be seated.

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY :I have given you the notice.

MR. SPEAKER: Please be seated.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the point of order has to come before this. I have given you the notice... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please be seated.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: We will go according to the List of Business.

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : No business can come before a Point of Order.

MR. SPEAKER: We will hear you later.

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : You said that you would allow my Point of Order.

MR. SPEAKER: There is no Point of Order. This is not a business item. At this stage there is no point of order.

SHRI AJIT JOGI (RAIGARH): You have to hear the Point of Order and give your ruling on that.

SHRI RAJESH PILOT (DAUSA)

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MR. SPEAKER: I am calling upon Shri Subramanian Swamy only.

SHRI RAJESH PILOT : It is about the central team for the survey. The Prime Minister is responding...(Interruptions)

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : I am on Rule 376...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have called upon Shri Subramanian Swamy. Please be seated.

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MR. SPEAKER: Please be seated. I have called upon Shri Subramanian Swamy. He has to make a Point of Order. Please be seated. This is not good.

...(Interruptions)

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MR. SPEAKER: I will allow you later.

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SHRI SHARAD PAWAR (BARAMATI): You may please allow him after Shri Subramanian Swamy.

MR. SPEAKER: I will allow him.

...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I will allow you later. Let him mention his point of order.

...(Interruptions)

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : You may assure them that you will call them turn by turn...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This is not good. I have allowed Shri Subramanian Swamy.

...(Interruptions)

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : Sir, I am an orderly member of the House. I am at a disadvantage...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed Shri Subramanian Swamy only.

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SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : I am on Rule 376, Sub-sections (1) and (2)...(Interruptions)

SHRI LALU PRASAD (MADHEPURA)

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SHRI MOHAN SINGH (DEORIA)

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SHRI LALU PRASAD (MADHEPURA)

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SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : Mr. Speaker, I have the permission of Shri Laloo Yadav also.

SHRI LALU PRASAD (MADHEPURA)

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SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : Yes, Laloo Prasad Yadav.

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Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am on a point of order under Rule 376, sub-rules (1) and (2).

MR. SPEAKER: You have to address the Chair, not Shri Laloo Prasad Yadav.

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : I was only making a passing reference to him. I am on a point of order to raise a very urgent matter which should have caught the attention of the House because it deals with the freedom of the Press. The Dina Malar is one of the most respected newspapers of Tamil Nadu. (Interruptions)


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