MR. SPEAKER: What is your point of order?

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : I will explain it. Fifty goondas ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: What is your point of order?

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY: This is a point of order. It was an attack by the son of the Chief Minister. The hon. Minister of Home Affairs must make a statement about the attack on the office of The Dina Malar.

MR. SPEAKER: What is your point of order?

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : The point of order is that the hon. Minister of Home Affairs must make a statement when the freedom of the Press ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : This will not go on record.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : What is your point of order?

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : The point of order is that the business before the House should be a statement from the hon. Minister of Home Affairs about the attack by the son of the Chief Minister* has attacked the office of The Dina Malar. There should be a CBI inquiry into it. The hon. Minister of Home Affairs should make a statement.

MR. SPEAKER : What is your point of order?

SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : There is lawlessness in the State of Tamil Nadu. When there is lawlessness, either you dismiss the Government or take action. The hon. Minister of Home Affairs should assure the House that he will make a statement about the attack on the office of The Dina Malar newspaper by the son of the Chief Minister.

MR. SPEAKER : That is not a point of order.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI R.S. GAWAI (AMRAVATI): I have got every right. (Interruptions) Please bear with me for two minutes. The hon. the Prime Minister has issued a statement under the Rules of Procedure. (Interruptions) Please bear with me. I would say that he may not have got the correct information on the prevailing situation and the exact impact of the calamity. As far as the calamity in the country is concerned, I do not blame him but at the same time there has been a hue and cry from the hon. Members coming from West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, Rajasthan, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. (Interruptions)

Hear me please. Mine is a relevant point. What I suggest is that we can make amendments. As a matter of fact, it is the moral and bounden duty that his statement ought to be circulated to the hon. Members. (Interruptions) I have got the right to amend it. I want to amend it, to incorporate the names of the rest of the States. I will refer to them again - Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Bihar, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. It should be accepted.

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* Expunged as ordered by the Chair.

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (LUCKNOW)

|vx j( +] ʤɽɮ V{): +Mɮ BE-BE ɨɱ E Ei VB, i +SU M* + Mɴ< ɽ x EU V E ɮ E + M E E =x V E ʺli E ɮ Eiɴ n VB*

... (ɴvx)

SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV (SAMBHAL)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n (Ʀɱ): +vI ɽn, ɤ n E xx E n n |vx j , i Vn +SU M*

... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER : The Prime Minister is on his legs. Please listen first.

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARYA (BANKURA): Mr. Prime Minister, you listen to us first. (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Please be seated.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: The Prime Minister is on his legs.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: It is not good to interrupt.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav, please be seated.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please keep silence. The Prime Minister is on his legs.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: The Prime Minister is on his legs.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: You must know the procedure.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: It is not good to interrupt.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: The Prime Minister is already on his legs.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: The Prime Minister is on his legs.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (LUCKNOW)

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... (ɴvx)

Zɴ n Ei *

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav, what is your problem?

... (ɴvx)

SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV (SAMBHAL)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n (Ʀɱ): +vI ɽn, +{E ɽi +ɦɮ E +{x Z c ʶE x E ɨɪ n* BE i Jx Sɽi * xɴɮ, +{ Vxi E < nx E xxҪ xl S]V V ɽi ʮ` xi + {ʱǪɨ]ʮx * +V V EU nx < Ƥv M x E{ ʱɪ l + U: nx E Eɦ Sɱ l* =ɨ ɤɺ + q ɽ l E x Vɪ VB* < E{ E ɤɺ Vn Vnɮ ɨlx xl S]V ɽ x E l, Ex +{ nJ E =xE nn E xɽ {ɽSx Mɪ* <ʱB Vɤڮ E xl S]V V V Bb 訤ɮ E Fv +ɪ*

... (ɴvx)

SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN (CHANDIGARH)

i {ɱ Vx (SbMg): ɨi V E Vx Fv + Mɪ*

... (ɴvx)

SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV (SAMBHAL)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : ɨi V E i +{E {i Sɱ VBM*

... (ɴvx)

E ɨi* ɨi V l Vci l E ֱɪɨ ʺƽ V EEii x +B* ... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Please address the Chair.

... (ɴvx)

SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV (SAMBHAL)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : +{ <xE EB*

... (ɴvx)

+vI ɽn, xl S]V ɽ E Ex l E lxҪ {ʱǪɨ] E 訤ɮ E ʴɶɺ x SʽB l* +Mɮ xxҪ <xpVi M{i V E ʴɶɺ ʱɪ l i Mʮ ɽ E x SʽB l EE lxҪ xxҪ ƺn * =xE xi xl S]V V l* xi E |vxɨj V +xVx ɽ E MB M, +xl Vɰ xl S]V V E ʴɶɨ i* {ɮnʶi E ɦ i Ei * ɮ +{ɺ +x֮v E xl S]V V E i E MƦҮi xB + +x xi+ E i E xB* Vɤ ɮ n E Mƴ E Ex ɤn M i ɮ n ɤn M* =iiɮ |n n nx {ɽ, {ɮ i E {ڮ E {ڮ Һn ɱ ɤn M<* Z +` Vɱ E VxEɮ - +Mɮ, ʡVɤn, B], x{֮, <]ɴ, Ex{֮ E ʽ, Jɤn, <ɽɤn*

... (ɴvx)

{ڮ =iiɮ |n E i * Vɽ {ɮ Һn ɱ + {cx E Eɮh ɤn < *

SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN : Sir, what is he speaking on? Is he on a Point of Order or on a point of information? Is he speaking on West Bengal or on Uttar Pradesh? We want to know as to what he is speaking on? (Interruptions)

SHRI HARIN PATHAK (AHMEDABAD): The Prime Minister has already assured the House that he will come before the House with reports on the States which are affected by natural calamities. What else do they want from him at this

stage? ....(

ɴvx)

SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV (SAMBHAL)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : +vI ɽn, +{ɺ ɽ Ex Sɽi E ɦ xi+ E i E +{ x + xxҪ Mʮ V Eɦ E lxҪ 䨤ɮ *

uɮ Vɮ

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n Vɮ + xl S]V E l E il + xi+ E l E BE ɴnҪ E] xE ʽnֺix E Ex E Vix ɨɺB , =x ɨɺ+ E ɮ ʮ{] E xxҪ |vx j V +Mɮ vx nM i =x ʴv M* +{E ɨZx + ɽM nx ʴv M - ɽ ɮ Ex *

SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (BALLIA)

SxpJɮ (ʱɪ) : +vI V, E xɽ ʱE {U 15 nx M xi + E n Sxiɪ E ɨx E + +ɨ ɽi E +ɴɶEi * Ex |ɮ V + ɽ c +xҪ * ɽi E nJ< xɽ {ci* Z n:J < i E E |EiE +{n V ʺli {ɮ M =Z Vi * =Zx ֱZ Vi +Mɮ +{ c E{{ڴE BE-n M E i x i* ɽ i ɽ E +{ < {n {ɮ xɪ Ex ɮ {ʱǪɨ] +ɺ E ʨxɺ] ʤɱEֱ {֮x * < nx E {ɮ{ɮ E ɽ Vxi * xl S]V +Mɮ Jc i i ɮ ɨV E xɪɨ E i xɽ =`x SʽB l* xɪɨ E ? Eɱ xɪɨ nx Sɱx SɽM i nx xɽ SɱM* <ʱB BE nںɮ E ɴx+ E ɨZx E Vɯi *

... (ɴvx)

SHRI KRISHAN LAL SHARMA (OUTER DELHI)

Eh ɱ ɨ (ɽ n): x i E< i =`< xɽ *

SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (BALLIA)

SxpJɮ : ɽ E l E +Mɮ E n E <E E< n + i =ɺ ɮEɮ E {Ux SʽB l* +Mɮ ɽ n xɽ l i = {] E xi {Ux SʽB l* ɽ ɮEɮ E ڱ * ɽ Eɨ |vx j E xɽ * ɽ Eɨ = ʴɦM E Vɺ ʴɦM E Vʮ + ɨZi ɽ Eʹ jɱɪ V ɪn < Eɨ E nJi * Z `E ɱڨ xɽ * xɽ Vxi E E iɮ Ex-Ex M x < bMx E iɪ E * ɽ BE ɪE ڱ * = ڱ E Eɮ Ex E-E Vɰ i *

... (ɴvx)

SHRI HARIN PATHAK (AHMEDABAD)

ʮx {`E : Ij V Eʨ] < l Z i {i iE xɽ l,

I went there on my own. ... (Interruptions) Nobody has contacted me. ... (Interruptions)

BE ɮ +nɤn Eʨ] <*

... (ɴvx)

SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI (JHANSI)

Vxp +Mxɽj (Zƺ) : Iɨ EVBM, ɽ ڱ xɽ * +{ +ɨ ɽi E i E Ex V = +b] l ɽ {ڮ xɽ Ex n Mɪ

... (ɴvx)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): Hon. Member is interrupting. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I am allowing Shri Chandra Shekhar, not you.

SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (BALLIA)

SxpJɮ : +{ < x Z Mֺ n Ei + x Z S{ E Ei * Eɱ ɽ xɴnx EM E + ֱɪɨ ʺƽ V x V Zɴ n ɮEɮ ɨx{ڴE + ʶɹ]Sɮ{ڴE =E Eɮ E + B ɽ iɮ xB E nx B ʴ{n+ {ɮ E E ɽi E ɺi xEɱ E*

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Mr. Speaker, Sir, ... (Interruptions)

SHRI AJIT KUMAR PANJA (CALCUTTA NORTH EAST): Allow us to speak. ... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : He has called me to speak. ... (Interruptions)

SHRI AJIT KUMAR PANJA : Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow us also.

MR. SPEAKER: He has been allowed to speak. Please sit down.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, I myself complimented the hon. Prime Minister for taking prompt action. This is a matter which cannot be a matter of politics. I hope not. I sincerely hope not. Now, when the hon. Prime Minister has taken the steps of sending a Central Minister immediately to go to the affected areas to personally supervise or personally inspect what has happened and the extent of damage. We appreciate it. I said it openly. I am not objecting to any particular Member going when you have decided to send Members of Parliament, obviously for the purpose of assisting the people and the Minister also. Therefore, on what basis, selection is made.

14.00 hrs.

You can send anybody you like. But if the concerned M.P. is not selected what is the message that goes? Therefore, I had requested that this is a matter of natural calamity which should not be made a subject of politics. The selection of the hon. Members of Parliament who have gone - only one name we have got, the other name we have not got yet - shows that it has been done on political basis. Therefore, my only request was that it was graceful on the part of the Prime Minister to have accepted my request.

We have been told that we have now got an able Prime Minister. I know him from 1971, I have the good fortune of knowing both, the illustrious number one and number two Division number holders, the Prime Minister and Shri Advani. It is my great pleasure to know them. This is a matter on which he should have openly said `yes'.

I am glad that he has consulted Shri Indrajit Gupta. But if he is trying to run this House totally ignoring the presence of the largest group from West Bengal, then, I think, the Prime Minister is committing a mistake. He should openly admit what Shri Chandra Shekhar has said. The Prime Minister has committed a mistake. Be gracious to accept that and say that he has been impressed by his immediate political motive because the Confidence Vote is yet to be taken up. That is why he is applying certain standards.

Therefore, I hope, Mr. Prime Minister, accepts that position. Of course, I cannot ask my Member to be sent by another plane. No doubt, he will go, but the question is: the facility of accompanying a Minister going there immediately is lost to the Member and everybody says: `Look at the concern of other Members and the Member of the Constituency has no concern'. This is the way he is trying to utilise a natural calamity for his political benefit. Therefore, I cannot but protest against that. (Interruptions).

MR. SPEAKER: I am allowing Shri Ajit Kumar Panja, not you.

SHRI AJIT KUMAR PANJA : We must thank our Prime Minister for quickly sending all help to the affected areas, Orissa and West Bengal. There were no politics in it. Immediately we came to know about it, we contacted on our own. If they slip there, it is their fault. It is not anybody's fault. (Interruptions).

MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to him.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : This is the consensus your partners are saying. (Interruptions).

MR. SPEAKER: Please listen.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI AJIT KUMAR PANJA : Sir, you please ask them to sit down. They cannot stop me. (Interruptions).

MR. SPEAKER: Please understand that when Shri Somnath Chatterjee was speaking, Shri Panja heard without disturbing him. You also hear what Shri Panja is saying.

... (Interruptions)

DR. RAM CHANDRA DOME (BIRBHUM): Those words should be withdrawn from the records. (Interruptions).

SHRI PRAMOTHES MUKHERJEE (BERHAMPORE) (WB): Shri Panja should withdraw those words. (Interruptions).

SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (PANSKURA): Shri Indrajit Gupta is rushing to his constituency this evening. (Interruptions). Earlier, the Prime Minister gave him only half an hour's notice to go. Naturally, he could not make it in half an hour. (Interruptions).

MR. SPEAKER: Madam, please go to your seat. This is not good.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : I have requested you to allow me to raise this subject. (Interruptions).

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This is not good.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please be seated. When Shri Somnath Chatterjee was speaking, Shri Panja heard him patiently. Now you must also hear him.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This is not good. Please be seated.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI ANIL BASU (ARAMBAGH): Sir, what Shri Panja has said is unparliamentary. It should be removed from the record.... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I shall go through the record. If there is anything unparliamentary, I shall remove it...

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. I have allowed Shri Panja.

(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. Only what Shri Panja says will go on record.

(Interruptions)* -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

* Not Recorded

SHRI AJIT KUMAR PANJA : Then the Prime Minister contacted Shri Indrajit Gupta who represents Midnapore. Therefore, Sir, you must make an inquiry immediately whether anybody from West Bengal has gone to the spot. I know that nobody from the Government of West Bengal, not even the Chief Minister, has gone there. Since yesterday nobody has visited the spot. But the Prime minister took the trouble of sending his Minister there. By the normal flight, anybody could have gone there but nobody has gone. They saw the newspapers when they got up.

I request the Prime Minister to consider giving further aid to West Bengal after getting a report from the Minister and Shrimati Mamata Banerjee.

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (LUCKNOW)

|vxɨj ( +] ʤɽɮ V{) : +vI ɽn, +nhҪ SxpJɮ V x + ʨj xl S]V x V EU E , =ɺ ɽi * ... (ɴvx)

|EiE |E{ E ɨɱ Vxi xɽ x SʽB, x Vxi x E ɮ <n * V EU + , +Mɮ =ɨ +{E Vxi nJ< ni i ɽ Mɱi , = Eɮ Ei *

Vɤ x Eʹ j E iiEɱ +{nOɺi Ij Vx E ʱB E i ɨZi l E ʨnx{֮ E Ij E |ixvi <pVi M{i Ei + <ʱB x =xɺ iiEɱ {E E* +Mɮ x Vxi i i =x {E Ex E E Wɰi l + +Mɮ Z {i i E Sɮ + n = Ij Vc B i =x V Ei l* +Mɮ ɽ Vx Sɽ i + |ɤv Ex E ʱB iɮ * Ex B Vx-ZE xɽ E Mɪ*

... (ɴvx)


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