MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Will you go back to your seat first?

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Will you please resume your seats? I want to say something.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please ask your Members to go back to their seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Rajo Singh, please go back to your seat.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats, I am on my legs.

... (Interruptions)

12.40 hrs

(At this stage, Dr. Shakeel Ahmad and some other hon. Members came

and stood on the floor near the Table.)

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will hear you. Please go back to your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: This matter is still in the discussion stage. There are other Members who want to raise their matters. You are doing harm to the parliamentary democracy. Do not do like this. This is not fair on your part.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I would request the Chief Whip of the Congress Party, Prof. P.J. Kurien, to ask his Members to go back to their seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 2 p.m.

12.43 hrs

The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Fourteen of the Clock.

14.01 hrs

The Lok Sabha re-assembled after at one minute

past Fourteen of the Clock.

(Mr. Speaker in the Chair)

SHRI P.C. CHACKO (IDUKKI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, we had raised a very serious issue in the morning. We want a ruling from you.

MR. SPEAKER: Calling Attention. Shri Basu Deb Acharia.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): I call the attention of the Minister.... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This is not `Zero Hour'. You can raise it tomorrow, not now.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI R. MUTHIAH (PERIYAKULAM): I have been called. I was speaking.

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Muthiah, I will hear you. Please take your seat.

SHRI P.C. CHACKO : This morning an issue was raised. It is not an ordinary issue. We want to cooperate with the Chair and so whatever you say, we will go by that. This matter concerns the defence of this country, a very serious matter where the Prime Minister should come to the House and reply to the matter raised. In spite of the fact that there was a notice neither the Minister of Defence nor the Prime Minister was present in the House. A casual reply from a Minister will not solve the problem. Whatever happens in this Parliament if we sideline the issue it will be an unfortunate reflection on this Parliament. (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Chacko, you are also aware of this. In the morning also we had a meeting with all the leaders. Tomorrow morning also there is a meeting when the hon. leaders are going to decide the matter.

SHRI P.C. CHACKO : This issue is being raised for the last four days. There are only two days and the House is going to adjourn.

MR. SPEAKER: Please cooperate. You can raise the matter tomorrow. Tomorrow it will be finalised.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have heard your submission also. Please sit down.

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SHRI R. MUTHIAH (PERIYAKULAM): At the time of the adjournment I was speaking. I was allowed to speak on a very important matter.

MR. SPEAKER: What is your submission?

SHRI R. MUTHIAH : In the State of Tamil Nadu atrocities on women are increasing day by day.

MR. SPEAKER: This is not `Zero Hour'. Please understand. I will not allow it.

This will not go on record.

(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER: You have been one of the Presiding Officers previously. This cannot be admitted in the House. Please understand.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This will not go on record.

(Interruptions) ... (Not recorded)

MR. SPEAKER: This is not good. Please take your seat.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Basu Deb Acharia.

Dr. Subramanian Swamy, you are a senior Member. How can we allow like this?

... (Interruptions)

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*Not Recorded.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shri Basu Deb Acharia says.

(Interruptions) *

MR. SPEAKER: Shri V. Sathiamoorthy, please take your seat. Please understand that this is not the proper way to represent a matter in the House. What is this? First, you must know the procedure. You cannot raise everything in the House.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shri Basu Deb Acharia says.

DR. SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY (MADURAI): Hon. Minister of Home Affairs should make a statement....(Interruptions).

MR. SPEAKER: Do not come to the podium. Please take your seat. Shri Gopal, first you please resume your seat. Shri Sathiamoorthy, you please talk properly.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.

(Interruptions) *

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI L.K. ADVANI): Sir, it is a matter pertaining to a State. But I will find out because the Members have raised the matter. I will find out what are the facts.

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*Not Recorded.


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