<b>XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, <i> Session I </i> </b>
XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session I Thursday, October 28, 1999/Kartika 6, 1921 (Saka)


Type of Debate: SPECIAL MENTION
Title: Regarding derecognisation of the Marxism theory from school syllabus by the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE).

TEXT :
PROF. A.K. PREMAJAM : Sir, I would like to bring to the notice of this august House, the Government and the entire nation that the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) has derecognised Marxism from school syllabus in the country. This syllabus covers nearly 5,300 schools located all over India and abroad. There is no rationale behind this decision as the other political theories like Fascism, Liberalism and Gandhism continue to be there in the syllabus. This decision has been taken in a very dubious and clandestine manner. This is not informed at any level and is done without any discussion. I cannot understand the rationale behind this. I would like to ask the Government whether this is the way -- a highly intolerant and fanatic way -in which they are going to take the country into the new millennium. I would like to know from the Government as to what is wrong with Marxism. I would like to get an explanation from the Government on this. Are they going to wipe out Marxism from the rest of the world? Marxism is one of the philosophies of life where every person tries to be taken on the same level and on the same equation.

13.00 hrs.

It is a philosophy a way of life and not merely a political theory. Sir, Marxism is being removed from the syllabus of the Central Board of Secondary Education.

We want a full discussion on this matter. We are deprived of the authority to know on what grounds this decision has been taken. The schools have not been allowed to know the reasons. It was done in a very dubious manner. It shows the Ruling front's relationship with Fascism, Fanaticism and Fundamentalism... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please understand. On this matter several hon. Members including Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee, Shri Basu Deb Acharia, Shri Varkala Radhakrishnan, Shrimatai Phoolan Devi, Shri Somnatah Chatterjee and Shri Rupchand Pal have given notice.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Prof. Vijay Kumar Malhotra has also given notice. I think, they can all associate themselves with the Members who have already spoken on this subject

... (Interruptions)

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, it is the question of education system of our country. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: They can all associate themselves with the matter.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): May I request Shri L.K. Advani?... (Interruptions)

DR VIJAY KUMAR MALHOTRA : Sir, I want to say something on this subject. I am not associating. I am dissociating.

MR. SPEAKER: There is no time today. Please associate yourself with the matter.

DR. VIJAY KUMAR MALHOTRA (SOUTH DELHI): On this subject, I want to say something. I am dissociating with them. I am not associating with them... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, this is a matter of Education. I hope, the matters relating to Education are not being treated in a partisan or political manner. A news report has appeared in `The Hindustan Times' of today that the Central Board of Secondary Education has omitted Marxism as one of the political theories from the curriculum of the course. Although Liberalism, Socialism, Fascism and Gandhism will continue in the curriculum. Sir, it appears that the Chairman of the Central Board of Secondary Education is not aware of this change. But Principals of some schools have said that they have got a copy of the new syllabus and there, Marxism has been omitted.

I would like to know whether the Government is a party to it, whether the Government knows about it. What is the Government's response? Does the Government, in it present set up, think that by obliterating Marxism from the study of political theory they can obliterate Marxism altogether from the world? Sir, there are countries in the world... (Interruptions)

xl S]V : i BE n ʨx] M* +{x i ]< ʮVɴ E ʱɪ* ... (ɴvx)

b. ʴVɪ E֨ɮ ɱj : +{ ֤ɽ Sɮ ɮ SE * Z BE ɮ E xɽ ʨɱ*

... (ɴvx)

xl S]V : +{ nx ɱ V E l l*

+vI ɽn : +{E E nM*

... (ɴvx)

13.03 hrs (Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, I am saying that if the Government thinks that they can obliterate Marxism altogether from the world as a political theory, I believe that they are sadly mistaken.

Is it the policy of the Government of India that they will try to force even Marxism out of the curriculum of the students? I know how it is being done in educational sphere dealing with the research work like the Council of Historical Studies and so on and so forth. I know how the RSS people are being put in there very selectively. Even non-attached intellectuals are being weeded out. We would like to know whether it is the continuation of the same policy by which even Marxism as a political theory is being brought out of the curriculum of the CBSE.

Sir, if it is so, we would like to very strongly object to that. They are trying to create a situation in this country where free flow of ideas are being attempted to be stopped.

If you think it will saffronise the education in every sphere of national life in this country, we shall oppose it here. We shall oppose it outside and, I am sure very very large numbers of people in this country will never accept it. I hope the Home Minister here will respond. I do not know. We have given notices much earlier. HRD Minister is not here. Let us know what is the Government's stand on this.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Vijaya Kumar Malhotra will speak now.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have already announced that Shri Vijaya Kumar Malhotra will speak on this very subject. I will call you, if your name is there. Shri Varkala Radhakrishnan, you are the former Speaker of Kerala Assembly. I have given the floor to Shri Vijaya Kumar Malhotra. Can both of you together talk? I have called Shri Vijaya Kumar Malhotra.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : We want to know the reaction of the Government.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I cannot compel the Government to react. You know it.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Will you please resume your seat, Shri Varkala Radhakrishnan? I am on my legs. You have this elementary knowledge about the floor of the House. I have given the floor of the House to Shri Vijaya Kumar Malhotra. I will call you one by one. If your name is there, I will call you. Both of you cannot talk at one time.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you do not allow Shri Vijaya Kumar Malhotra to speak, then I will have to adjourn the House. Do not pass running commentary like this.

b. ʴVɪ E֨ɮ ɱj : ={vI V, ֤ɽ ɽ i E Exɺ] {] E M E {] E n E x xɽ n * Vɤ i i S <xE xɽ ]Ei* xl V n ʨx] iE , x BE ɤn xɽ E, Ex Vɤ E< nںɮ n x Sɽi i S Jc Vi *

={vI ɽn: ʴVɪ E֨ɮ V, +{ ʴɹɪ {ɮ + VB*

... (ɴvx)

={vI ɽn: +{x l E <]{] x E*

b. ʴVɪ E֨ɮ ɱj : ={vI V, +V ֤ɽ BE ɨSɮ {j E< SV U{, `n ʽxnֺix ]<' BE Jɤɮ U{, n xɨɮ E {{ɮ {S-{S +<bVW E ɮ iSi =ɨ ʱV , MvV - Sɱ , ɽ i E M<* Z ɱڨ xɽ E ..B.<. x E SV E * ʱV E +iMi EʺV +i + =E l {g< Vi * E< l {g< VB - =E ɮ Z E< +{ii xɽ * {ɮi Vɺ fM < i E { E V , E V x<V Ex E Eʶɶ E V , ɽ E V E EʺV nxɪ Ji xɽ E Ei, {Ux Sɽi E nxɪ Ex ֱE , Vɺɨ EʺV ? E ] Mɱ EʺV

... (ɴvx)

nxɪ x ɤɺ {ɽ +{x +{ E EʺV +M E ʱɪ l* Sx Vɽ EʺV E xɨ i l, ɽ Sx +V +ʮE E ] b xx * < iɮ ] Mɱ Exɺ] {] x ɤɺ {ɽ <E]ʺ] E |<]<V E* ɽ E Exɺ] {] x +{x +Jɤɮ E J{ɹ` {ɮ EEE E <iɽɮ n* < iɮ ] Mɱ EʺV E xɨ-xɶx xɽ * E E l {gB, {ɮi ʺri EʺV E ɤɺ Vn i ] Mɱ Exɺ] {] x E *

nxɪ E< ֱE B xɽ , Vɺɨ < ɨɪ EWɨ Sɱ * EWɨ i l * EWɨ nxɪ Ji SE * +Mɮ +{ i l E {gx Sɽ, i Z E< BiɮV xɽ * ɽ {ɮ ɤɺ Vn |<]<Vx E ] Exɺ] {] x ] Mɱ bɱ * ɮ ʽxnֺix E {ɮ <ix |<]<Vx xɽ Vix ] Mɱ * nxɪ E bE]]ʶ{ +ɡ n |]ʮB] E l Sɱ * E V E x<V E * Exɺ] {] x ] Mɱ E VMɽ {ɮ E< nںɮ l xɽ +x n* <xx ɨEh {ɮɽƺ E Eڱ E xn E n* E< nںɮ l ɽ Sɱx xɽ n* Exɺ] {] ExWɨ E i {ɮ E< nںɮ l ɽ {ɮ +x xɽ nx Sɽi* E< x<V xɽ E V * E< ʶI {ri E n xɽ V * <ʱB Ex Sɽi E <E {ɽ nJ VB E ɽ {ɮ E i < , ʡ < {ɮ ɽ E VB* ɽ E V Ei * Eɱ ʺrxi {g nx , EWɨ nxɪ Ji VB, =ɺ Eɨ xɽ Sɱ Ei *

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, he is totally misleading the House. ... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please resume your seat now.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please take your seat. I have called Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev.

SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV (SILCHAR): Hon. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, with a heavy heart, I would like to draw your attention. In my Parliamentary constituency, ... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, this issue should be over.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev, you will get your chance later.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN (CHIRAYINKIL): Sir, I have also given a notice.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Hon. Speaker has associated your name also. He read out your name. But it is not necessary that everyone has to say something. Shri Somnath Chatterjee has already spoken.

... (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (PANSKURA): Mine was the second notice and I want only two minutes. I gave my notice at nine o'clock. ... (Interruptions)

He said that Marxism is to be seen nowhere in the world today. Let me tell him that China adheres to Marxism and Cuba, the most heroic republic, also follows Marxism. Is keeping Fascism on the agenda the way to guide the education of the students? Why should Marxism be taken away or derecognized?

SHRI N.N. KRISHNADAS (PALGHAT): We want a clarification from the Government. ... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please take your seat. I now call Shri Radhakrishnan.

... (Interruptions)

xxnE֨ɮ ʺƽ Sx (Jb): ={vɨ ɽn, v |n ʮVx E l ɤǮi { +ɪ V * < ɨɱ E =`x E ʱB BE ʴvɪE Y{x nx V l* = ʴvɪE E {ʱɺ x Vx ɮx E

... (ɴvx)

BE ʴvɪE, BE Vx|ixv E l V

... (ɴvx)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.

(Interruptions) *

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will have to adjourn the House, if you go on like this.

... (Interruptions)

______________________________________________________________________________

*Not recorded.

SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN : Sir, I am now on my legs. ... (Interruptions) You have called me and I am on my legs.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please resume your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please resume your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Will you please resume your seats?

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, hon. Home Minister please.

... (Interruptions)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ (Mx): xxҪ ={vI ɽn, + V nʹ]Eh ʴVɪ E֨ɮ ɱj V x < nx E ɨx |ɺii E, x BE ɽi JiɮxE nʹ]Eh * E ɮEɮ ɽ iɪ Ex ɱ E EWɨ ɨ{i Mɪ ? E <xE <n {ڮ {`F iɪ x ɱ ? EWɨ BE {ʱ]E ʡ亡 + = EWɨ E {`F xEɱx {ڮ iɮ +xSi , <ɨ xl V E {ڮ iɮ ɨlx Ei * < n 24 +Eiڤɮ E ʽxnֺix ]< +ɪ = E] Ex Sɽi , EE ɽi ɮ Jiɮ * <ɨ E Mɪ :-

"That the Committee appointed to frame the syllabus for open schools was recently disbanded after it had put in two years of hard work."

ɮ x iɮ-iɮ E EB {n i + {ڮ iɮ xl V E ɨlx Ei E EWɨ E {`F xEɱx {ڮ iɮ +xSi * < {ɮ ɮEɮ xʶSi { E< {ɹ]Eh SɽM*

... (ɴvx)

b. ʴVɪ E֨ɮ ɱj : ] Mɱ Vɺ iɮ < E xEɱ , = Eb EʮB*

... (ɴvx)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Hon. Member, please resume your seat. I have given the floor to Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav. Please do not interrupt.

... (Interruptions)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n (ɨɱ): xxҪ ɱj ɽ x V iE J E EWɨ {ڮ E {ڮ nxɪ Ji Mɪ , E< ʴSɮvɮ E ʨ] Ei * ɽ ɽ , V ʺvɪ ɽ x E E iɪ xɽ E Ei* Vxi Mv V E ʴSɮvɮ E xx ɱ x Mv V E ʴSɮvɮ E xɹ] E n, Ex E x E + MvҴn ɺi {ɮ Sɱ * Mɽ j V, ɽ E <ʱB EE {U ɮEɮ +{ l, ʶI {ri E n E E iɮ E ʶI {ri * n E ʶI j x =E ʴɮv E i +{E Vɤڮ E {ɺ x {c* +{ {ɮ ʺWɨ E {ڮ E {ڮ +i * < iɮ Mv V E i E n* ɽ i ɽ M< Ex E< nxɪ Mv V E xɨ E ʨ] xɽ Ei* ɽ V vҮ-vҮ < iɮ <iɽɺ E nx E Vɶ , ɽ ʺWɨ E v-v BE iɮE * <ʱB +xɴɶE { ɽ ɮ E ɮ n E ɨɺ+ ] E E ɮEɮ E Eɨ * VɺE {ɺ x xi , x EɪF , x ʺrxi + x n E Vxi E E< Sxi * ɽ ɮEɮ E E< ʴvE BM, E E< B ɴɱ =` nM Vɺɺ n E Vxi E V ڱ ɨɺB =ɺ n E ]ɪ V E* ɽ {ڮ E {ڮ bj , EWɨ E ]x Mɱi * +Mɮ B ]x ֯ VBM i +{ ii xɽ M, +{ ʨ] VBM, .V.{. ʨ] VBM* = nx EM E .V.{. ʨ] M<* +Mɮ +{ ii + MB ii EWɨ ] Mɪ , <E iɱɤ ʴSɮvɮ xɽ ʨ] * +V Vxi {i Eɮ, rVʴɪ + EU ɺ E S E< B c M V EWɨ E + xx ɱ VɤE n E Vxi F xɽ *

< iɮ iE E VMɽ EiE +{ n * < {ɮ +{ V xi E Sx SʽB* b.ʴVɪ E֨ɮ ɱɽj : ʱV {g *

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : +{E + ɮ ʱV +iɮ * +{E i n E EǺɴn E ʴSɮvɮ Jɮɤ xɽ Ex =xE V iɮE M Ex E l ɽ Mɱi l, =ɺ =x xEx +* <ʱB ɮiҪ Vxi {] E < Ex Sɽi E =ɺ +{ EU J, EǺɴn J* +Mɮ =xɨ EV +< i =xx +{x iɮE =ɨ nɴ Ex E Eʶɶ E + = iɮ =xE ɮEɮ + {] Mɪ * <ʱB +{E ɴvx E E V iɮE +{ +{x =E Eɮh < n +{E ɡɪ M* <ʱB +{ =ɺ EU Jɪ* iɮ {ɮ ɮ <iɽɺ nx E i i Sɪ* ɮ ɮ =xE ɮ Mɱi ʱJɴi , <ɺ E M? EU l ɮ ɪ ɽi xɽ Ei Ex ɱɽj V, E-E ɮ i Mɽ j V ɽi M, Vxɺ n E +M gx nn ʨɱM* V < iɮ E Eɨ E =xE ɽ Eɨ Mɱi * <ʱB =xE ɮEɮ E iɮ ɡ Mx SʽB + < {ɺ x SʽB*


[NEXT PAGE]