<b>XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, <i> Session II (Winter Session) </i> </b>
XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session II (Winter Session) Wednesday, December 1, 1999/Agrahayana 10, 1921 (Saka )


Type of Debate: SUBMISSIONS BY MEMBERS
Title: Regarding safeguarding of national interests at the Third WTO Ministerial Conference's Plenary Session at Seattle, U.S.A.

TEXT :
12.12 hrs.

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MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav to speak now.

SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN (CHIRAYINKIL): Sir, I have given a notice. What about my notice?

MR. SPEAKER: I have called Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav to speak.

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12.15 hrs. (

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WTO

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SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSHI (RAIGANJ): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, the matter which has been raised by the hon. Member from R.J.D., Dr. Raghuvansh Prasad Singh and supported by Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav is a very serious one. This morning we are told that civil emergency has been imposed in Seattle and the Ministers are prevented from entering into the hall while Shri Maran, our distinguished Minister of Commerce and Industry, was having his deliberations there. We are also told that besides the agreement on Uruguay round, which was the first and final round of discussions on G.A.T.T. and which was later converted into W.T.O., a few more items are about to be included in the discussions. We do not know the exact position which the Government has already taken in Seattle this morning or what it is likely to take there. So, it would be appropriate if the Government comes forward with a statement, after ascertaining the latest position from Shri Maran who is now in Seattle, and report to the House, so that we can react appropriately thereafter as to what is our stand in the matter. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I should be given a chance to make my submission. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Radhakrishnan, I have called Shri Jaipal Reddy now.

SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN : Sir, my name is there.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Yes; I am not denying that. Your name is there.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (MIRYALGUDA): Thank you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir.

I wish to bring to the notice of the House that a despatch has been sent from Seattle which appeared in The Hindu this morning to the effect that the Government of India has already reached an underhand understanding with the United States. The despatch quotes a source of the United States to say that we have agreed with the United States in regard to electronic commerce Information Technology Agreement-2 - without insisting on any quid pro quo. Our approach was that we would ask for a review of the patent regime which was mandatory as a part of the Uruguay Round. We did not get that in return. Even before the Seattle round was inaugurated formally, we have already reached a clandestine agreement.

This is what The Hindu of today says. Shri Rammanohar Reddy, who is a noted expert and who is covering the proceedings at Seattle, sent the newsitem this morning.

The Government should be able to respond to this. If you have agreed with the Government of the United States behind the back of the nation, behind the back of Parliament, even before the convention was started, we would like to know as to what we have got in return.

Shri Murasoli Maran, who is our Minister there, could not assure the country when he was responding to TV presenters on Star TV last night that he would be able to resist linking of non-trade issues, such as, environment and labour with trade.

All this only shows how weak this Government is in its approach. Therefore, even before this Government commits itself to anything, we want Parliament of India to be taken into confidence. This mistake cannot be allowed to be made because if the Government of India commits itself, Parliament becomes helpless. Therefore, I suggest that the Government makes a statement on this issue categorically that it will not make any commitment whatsoever either clandestinely or otherwise without taking Parliament into confidence.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, Shri Chandra Bhushan Singh.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): We should also be allowed to speak on this.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Acharia, I have got a number of names.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : No, Sir; I have given a notice. ... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You ought to have given the notice at 10 o'clock. Now only you realise that it is an important matter.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will not allow.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: There are a number of people who have given notices on important matters. I will allow them to speak.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : It has appeared in today's `Hindu'. ... (Interruptions) It is a very serious matter. The House should be informed about what has transpired there and why the Government has surrendered to the United States of America. Is there any agreement which the Government propose to have with the developed nations there? The Parliament should be taken into confidence. Since yesterday, thousands and thousands of workers in Seattle are demonstrating. The local administration had to impose curfew against the movement by the workers who are against the conditions which are being imposed by the developed nations under the leadership of the United States of America. Here, Sir, in our country, more than two lakh employees of insurance sector, today, are on strike ... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Where are you going, Shri Acharia? What is your topic? You are clubbing all matters together.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, this is surrendering of our country to them... (Interruptions)

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... (ɴvx)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please do not complicate it further. Please take your seat. Shri Acharia, please conclude now.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, we demand that the House should be taken into confidence before any agreement is arrived at Seattle. What is happening there; what are the conditions which are being imposed by the United States of America? The House should be informed of all these issues... (Interruptions)

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... (ɴvx)

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, this is a very important issue that we have raised. There should be some response from the Government... (Interruptions) There is no response from the Government... (Interruptions)

SHRI RUPCHAND PAL (HOOGLY): Sir, this is a very serious issue... (Interruptions)

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please, Raghuvansh Prasad Singhji, the Government is reacting.

... (Interruptions)

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You do not want the Government to react!

... (Interruptions)

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please take your seat. You do not allow me also to speak in this House. A very important issue was raised and the Government wants to react. If all of you stand up like this, then how can the Government react to it.

... (Interruptions)

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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, the Prime Minister should come and respond... (Interruptions)

SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI : Sir, this is a very important issue ... (Interruptions) The interest of our country is at stake. I feel that the whole propriety demands that either the Finance Minister or the Prime Minister or someone from the Government should respond and react to the grievances and issues raised by the Opposition Members. It is not a lighter issue. A decision is imposed on us in Seattle and these issues are expected to come. Some more issues have come in the The Hindu. The Finance Minister is competent enough to respond or the Prime Minister should respond... (Interruptions)

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please hear him first.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, we have raised a very important issue and no less than the Prime Minister should respond to it... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Acharia, this is `Zero Hour' and the matter has already been taken note of by the Government. How can you expect the Prime Minister to respond right now?

... (Interruptions)

SHRI RAJESH PILOT (DAUSA): Sir, the hon. Minister says

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... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please go to your seats. I will not allow this. I have to take a serious note of it.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please go to your places. Shri Mulayam Singh, please ask your Members to go back to their places.

... (Interruptions)

12.30 hrs.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I request the leaders to ask their Members to go back to their seats. This is not the way.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please go to your places. I will have to take a serious note of it. Please go to your places.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will have to take a serious note of it. Please go to your places.

... (Interruptions)

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Shri Mulayam Singh, you are a Senior Member. What is this? You do not want me to conduct this House. This is very very unfair.

... (Interruptions)

12.31 hrs

(At this stage, Shri Tarit Baran Topdar and some other hon. Members came and stood on the floor near the Table.)

... (Interruptions)

SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, the Prime Minister can come to the House and react on this issue. It is not a matter to be taken lightly. The Prime Minister should come and react. If he is preoccupied, the Finance Minister can come and react on this issue.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I request the hon. Members to go back to their seats.

... (Interruptions)

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please go to your places.

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am directing you to go to your places. Unless you go back to your places, how can they reply?

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You please go and occupy your seats.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI P.H. PANDIYAN (TIRUNELVELI): Do we have a Government inside the House?

(Interruptions).

SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI (RAIGANJ): Now, the hon. Minister of Parliamentary Affairs has come. (Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will ask the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs to react if you go to your places. Then only I will ask the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs to respond, otherwise not.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI : Let the hon. Minister of Parliamentary Affairs go to the hon. Prime Minister and tell us the position and take the House into confidence since the matter is very serious. (Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You please hear me. Will you allow me to speak? Will you not allow me to speak? Please go to your seats. I will ask the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs to interfere. I will ask him to react. You please go to your seats.


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