<b>XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, <i> Session II (Winter Session) </i> </b>
XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session II (Winter Session) Tuesday, December 14, 1999/Agrahayana 23, 1921 (Saka )


Type of Debate: SPECIAL MENTION
Title: Demanded clarification from the Prime Minister over the statement made by the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh on the construction of Ram Temple at Ayodhya.

TEXT :
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : What I am saying is that yesterday the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh has made some obnoxious and controversial statements. ... (Interruptions) We would like to know from the hon. Prime Minister the clarifications that he got from the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh. ... (Interruptions) We want the hon. Prime Minister to make it available to the House. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Prof. A.K. Premajam.

... (Interruptions)

PROF. A.K. PREMAJAM (BADAGARA): Sir, I thank you very much for the opportunity. I would like to bring before this august House, a very important matter. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seats. I am appealing to the hon. Members to please take their seats. Now, Prof. A.K. Premajam.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have called Prof. Premajam. I will call Shri Madhavrao Scindia next. I will come back to you later.

... (Interruptions)

PROF. A.K. PREMAJAM : Sir, I thank you very much for the opportunity. I want to bring to the notice of this House a very important matter. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: No. Please understand that we have discussed this issue yesterday also. Now I have called Prof. Premajam. Please sit down.

... (Interruptions)

PROF. A.K. PREMAJAM : Sir, a very tragic incident has taken place in the early hours of yesterday. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Prof. Premajam says.

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PROF. A.K. PREMAJAM : Sir, in the early hours of yesterday, because of the callous and irresponsible attitude of the Airport Authority of India, the Civil Aviation Ministry and the private company, ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.

(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Will you please take your seats? Shri Somnath Chatterjee.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seats.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not going to trouble my BJP friends. ... (Interruptions) Sir, I am not going to say anything about my BJP friends. They can be rest assured. We know them very well. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, the ruling party is disturbing the House. The ruling party is not allowing the House to continue with its business. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I am appealing to you to take your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I will give an opportunity to speak. Please take your seats.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not going to say anything about my BJP friends. ... (Interruptions)

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MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, I am not going to say anything about my BJP friends. Since the hon. Prime Minister has made his position clear, I am only trying to find out from the non-BJP constituents of the NDA as to why they should call themselves secular when they are supporting the BJP. ... (Interruptions) I would like to know from them. ...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Premajam may please speak.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing should go on record except Prof. Premajam's speech.

(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please go to your seat.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.

(Interruptions)*

MR. SPEAKER: I am appealing to you all. Please go to your seat.

... (Interruptions)

PROF. A.K. PREMAJAM : Sir, I request that I may be permitted to speak.... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please go to your seat.

... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned till 1400 hours.

1227 hours

The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Fourteen of the Clock.

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14.12.99 Uncorrected/Not for Publication ###

)) 1404 hours

The Lok Sabha re-assembled after Lunch at four minutes

past Fourteen of the Clock.

(Dr. Laxminarayan Pandeya in the Chair)

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ɦ{i ɽn : + xɪɨ 377 E +vx ɨɱ *

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : ɦ{i ɽn, ɽ <E {ɽ VҮ +ɮ E ɨɱ * = ɨɪ ɽ iVxE Vɴɤ xɽ ʨɱ* <ʱB Vɤ iE iVxE Vɴɤ xɽ ʨɱM

... (ɴvx)

E] (֨< =iiɮ-{ڴ) : ɦ{i ɽn, VҮ +ɮ ɨ{i Mɪ , ɽ V < |Eɮ E i Sɱ * V BE |Eɮ E i Sɱ *

... (ɴvx)

ɽ V ɽ Sɱ

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : {ʱǪɨ] ʨxɺ] ɽ *

... (ɴvx)

E] : {ʱǪɨ] ʨxɺ] E |ɶx xɽ

... (ɴvx)

E E iɽi =`

... (ɴvx)

ɽ VҮ +ɮ xɽ ... (ɴvx) ʴ{I ɽ Vxx Sɽi E VS Ex Sɽi xɽ

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : ɽn, |vx j V x E l E {i M , +{ lc v Jɪ* BE Eʨ]] = E +ɪ E {i ME = E ʴɶɺ E ɺi-ʺli E |Eɶ ɪM

... (ɴvx)

|. ɺ ʺƽ ɴi (+Vɨ) : ɦ{i ɽn, M E x E E n VB

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : Vɤ iE |vx j V < Eʨ]] E {ڮ xɽ Ei iɤ iE Si E = E

... (ɴvx)

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vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : xɽ ɮ, ɽ =xE = E +ɶɺx , ɽ +ɶɺx |vx j V E {ڮ Ex SʽB* xɽ i {ʱǪɨ] |F M *

ɦ{i ɽn : +vI ɽn x V BE ɴɺl n =E +xֺɮ Eɨ E * + xɪɨ 377 E +vx ʴɹɪ M*

...(ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : ɦ{i ɽn, ɽ nx E EɪǴɽ E ɤn: ixi l * <ɨ =xx E - " {i M * v JB*" <E iɱɤ ɽ E {ڮ VxEɮ E < nx |ɺii EM* +V nx |vx j V xɽ +B* n +V nx < ɮ {ڮ VxEɮ |ɺii xɽ Ei, i {ڮ nx E +{ɨx M* <ʱB +{E vɨ +x֮v Ex SɽM E |vx j V nx +B + <E ɮ VxEɮ n* ɽ ɤ E M *

... (ɴvx)

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... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : ɽ {ɮ ƺnҪ Eɪ j Vn l* +vI ɽn x +{x ɴɺl n n *

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : ɦ{i ɽn, E {ڮ VxEɮ SʽB* |vx j ɽn uɮ +ɡ n = {ɮ V +ɶɺx n Mɪ , =E +xֺɮ =x ɽ + E +V Vɴɤ nx SʽB*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : xɪɨ 377 E +vx ʴɹɪ * ɽ x-Eɱ xɽ *

... (ɴvx)

ʴxɪ E]ɮ (Vɤn) : ɦ{i ɽn, <xE ɮEɮ E Ei ? = ɨɪ vɴɮɴ V E l Vɤ ɤɮ ʺVn Mɮ< V l?

... (ɴvx)

|ɨn ɽVx: ɦ{i V, E |vx j ɽ +B* "+v" ʴɹɪ E Ƥv =xE V Ex l, ɽ =xx {ɹ]{ E n*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : ʴxɪ E]ɮ V, +{ `B* j V *

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ (Mx) : ɦ{i ɽn, ƺnҪ Eɪ j ɽn Eɱ ɽ Vxx Sɽi E ɽ VxEɮ nx E ʱB |vx j V ɽ E ={ʺli x ɱ ? ʺɡ ɽ Vxx Sɽi E E ɨɪ + E ɽ +x ɱ + V VxEɮ nx E ʱB =xx E E l, ɽ VxEɮ E nx ɱ ? ƺnҪ Eɪ j V E xɽ xx Sɽi * i ʺɡ |vx j ɽn < nx E ={ʺli x ɱ , ɽ Vxx Sɽi ?

... (ɴvx)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n (ɨɱ) : ɦ{i ɽn, {ɽ Z ɽ E xB* ʡ xB*

... (ɴvx)

|ɨn ɽVx: ɦ{i ɽn, |vx j V x V E ɽ {ɹ]Eh n l ɽ x nJ , =ɨ |vx j x ɽ E xɽ E E "< ɮ ʡ +E nx i>M*"

... (ɴvx)

ɽ Eɨ-EV x nJ , =ɨ |vx j x " ɽ +E ʡ nx EU i>M", B +ɶɺx xɽ n , =xE +x E |ɶx xɽ =`i*

... (ɴvx)

b. Pִƶ |ɺn ʺƽ (ɱ) : =xx E , {i ME ʡ iɪ*

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : <ɨ E ʱJ , ɽ = E ʮEb * ... (ɴvx)

MR. CHAIRMAN : The Minister of Parliamentary Affairs has clarified the position.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI P.C. THOMAS (MUVATTUPUZHA): They should take the House into confidence...(Interruptions)

SHRI P.H. PANDIYAN (TIRUNELVELI): The Prime Minister made a commitment in the House. The Prime Minister assured the House that after ascertaining the views of the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh, he would inform the House...(Interruptions)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ (Mx) : =E E iɱɤ *

... (ɴvx)

ɽ {ʱǪɨ] E |bM *

E] : + +{x xxҪ ʴ{I E n E x* = E Eɨ-EV Sɱx nx Sɽi xɽ?

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : ƺnҪ Eɪ j uɮ +{x + {ɹ]Eh n Mɪ *

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : EU {ɮ{ɮB , < iɮ = E SɱM? ... (ɴvx)

E] : ɺiɴ ʴ{I <ix {Ux SʽB E nx E Eɨ-EV Sɱx nx Sɽi xɽ* +{E uɮ ɮ-ɮ BE ʴɹɪ E E E< x E< < |Eɮ E ʴɹɪ =`ɪ Vi *

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : =xx E E {i M , +{ v J*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : nںɮ E< ʴɹɪ =`ɪ xɽ V *

E] : ʴ{I E {ɺ E< ʤxn xɽ , E< q xɽ * ... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : ƺnҪ Eɪ j E i n E |vx j V nx E + *

... (ɴvx)

=xE V EU Ex , E* ɽ lc E E BE i E* i VxEɮ x E ʱB E * ... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : j V ɽ , +{E i x *

... (ɴvx)

|Eɶ Vɪɺɴɱ (Ex{֮) : xxҪ ɦ{i ɽn, Eɱ |vx j V ɽ +E +{x Eiɴ E {ڮ E* =xx < i E +ɶɺx n l E E iE {i ME = E iBM* +V =E E {ʮhɨ + , ɽ i<? ... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : i nx +x֮v E E 377 ʱɪ Vɪ +lɴ xɽ* 377 E EɪǴɽ x , 377 E ɮ +{ iɪ Eʮ* =xx +{x {ɹ]Eh n n* ƺnҪ Eɪ j x ɽi ɡ-ɡ +{x {ɹ]Eh n * +{x i ɡ E *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : +{ +{x i ɨ{i Eʮ*

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : ƺnҪ Eɪ j i n E |vx j E ɽ ={ʺli , V VxEɮ nx ɱ l, ɽ VxEɮ E E n VɪM, <E VxEɮ n, ɽ Sɽi *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : 377 {ɮ SS Ex Sɽi * E{ɪ ɽ SS Ex nVB*

|Eɶ Vɪɺɴɱ (Ex{֮) : |vx j V x V ɪx n l, Eɱ ɽ xx Sɽi E =xx E {i Mɪ, E VxEɮ ʺɱ E + = E E ix Sɽi *

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : =xx nx E , ɽ ʮEb {ɮ *

ɦ{i ɽn : nx V EU E , xxҪ ƺnҪ Eɪ j x =E n n * ƺnҪ Eɪ j x ɽ E , V =xx E *

... (ɴvx)

vɴɮɴ ʺvɪ : ɮx ɮ ɽ `x E E< iɱɤ xɽ * ... (ɴvx) i |bM E] E *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : + ɽ SS E ʴɹɪ xɽ * ɮ ɨx SS E ʴɹɪ 377 * + E< i ʮEb {ɮ xɽ VɪM*

...(ɴvx)

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MR. CHAIRMAN: This is too much.

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : ƺnҪ Eɪ j x ʺli ɡ E n , V EU |vx j x E , =E =xx =J E *

... (ɴvx)

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... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : ƺnҪ Eɪ j E V EU Ex l, xxҪ j ɽn x ɽ i E n *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : ɽ SS E ʴɹɪ xɽ * < {ɮ SS xɽ E *

... (ɴvx)

uɮ Vɮ ɦ{i ɽn : ɴɺl E +xֺɮ SʱB* {ɽ xɪɨ 377 E +vx Sxɪ x nVB*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : +{ E{ɪ +{x lx Oɽh E*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : x ɴɺl n , {ɽ 377 M*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : E< i ʮEb {ɮ xɽ V *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : {ɽ +vI ɽn {`ɺx l, =xx i x + xE xEɱ ɨ{i E i E *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : ɽ VҮ-+ɴɮ xɽ *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : +{x lx {ɮ V<B* +{ ɴɺl xɪ J* E{ɪ +{x lx {ɮ V<B*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : +{E + i E n M< l + ƺnҪ Eɪ j x {ɹ]Eh n n * V EU xxҪ |vx j V x E l, =xx ɡ-ɡ ɤn E * =E +{ nںɮ +l xEi , i i nںɮ *

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : Snִn V, +{ɺ +x֮v EM E +{ +{x lx {ɮ V<B*

... (ɴvx)

ɦ{i ɽn : +{ ɴɺl x<B* {ɽ 377 M*


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