<b>XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, <i> Session II (Winter Session) </i> </b>
XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session II (Winter Session) Tuesday, December 7, 1999/Agrahayana 16, 1921 (Saka )


Type of Debate: SUBMISSION BY MEMBERS
Title: Regarding pending Ayodhya case before Special Additional Sessions Judge.

TEXT :
17.02 hrs.

MR. SPEAKER: Now, we take up the next issue. Shri Mulayam Singh.

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n (ɨɱ) : +vI ɽn

... (ɴvx)

|ɦxl ʺƽ (ɽɮVMV, ʤɽɮ) : +vI ɽn, Z ɽ Ex ... (ɴvx)

+vI ɽn : +{ E Ei *

|ɦxl ʺƽ : +vI ɽn, < {ɮ E M* Ex ɽ Ex Sɽi l E E Vɤ ɨ Vxɦʨ E ɨɱ Sɱ l, = {ɮ Z x E ʱB +{x Ʈ xɨ ֱɪ l* ɮ, ɮ EU ɴxB * nx + n E ɨx +{x ɴxB Jx Sɽi * <ʱB Sɽi E +{ Z < {ɮ x E <VVi n*

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : +vI ɽn, +{E ɽi +ɦɮ E +{x Z n E ɽi{h ɴɱ {ɮ x E E n* I{ n i EM* n i B VxE ɮ n E Vxi E VxEɮ x SʽB E +Jɮ ʺVn E f< M<

... (ɴvx)

E |ɺn Vɪɺɴɱ (ɮhɺ) : ɽ ʺVn E l, ɽ fS l*

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : <x ɨZ<, Z x VB

... (ɴvx)

SE {ɮx nںɮ E M* <x ɨZ<* +Mɮ <x r i i Z ]Ei xɽ* +vI ɽn, +{ɺ Ex Sɽi E EU B xɪn Mɱiɪ Mɱi xiɪ , VxE Eɮh ʺVn f< M< + ʺVn fx E ʱB V Vɨnɮ , +V jɨb , =xE Jɱɡ SVǶ] * =xE =iiɮ ɮ ʴ{I E xxҪ n ɽi xɽ * + |vx j V +ɪ , Vɴɤ nM* Ex =ɺ {ɽ n i Ex Sɽi E ʺVn ɮiҪ Vxi {] + =xE E< Ƥvi M`x x Mɮ<, < Ƥv ɨɺi VxEɮ + x ɤɮ ʺVn E Sɪ + = E JʨɪV ɮ ɨVɴn {], ɮ lɪ, EɪEi+ E ɮ {ʮɮ E Mix {c + iɨɨ iEҡ Zx {c * <ʱB +{E ɨx n i Jx Sɽi E +Mɮ ɽ ʺVn +SxE xɽ Mɮ< M< + x ɽ P]x +SxE P]i < * |vx j V = ɨɪ ii xɽ l, =xx EU ɤn Eɮ E l, Vx nE nx E ɨɪ xɽ x Sɽi * Ex xɪn i ɽ E ʺVn VxɤZE Mɮ< M< + <E ʱB Ex-Ex Vɨnɮ * V SV-]b MB , i Vɨnɮ , Ex +Mɮ + M Vɨnɮ , +Mɮ +< + +nɱi E xVɮ xɽ +ɪ, i n E Vxi E xVɮ i +x SʽB* n E <E Eix JʨɪV =`x {c, n Eix +MVx, nM + n B, Sɽ ʽxn ʺɨ , =xE nEx Vɱ< M<, iB E M<, ]{] <, nM il +MVx < =E ʱB Ex-Ex Vɨnɮ ? <ʱB I{ Ex Sɽi E 4 nɨɮ, 1992 E ɨVɴn {] E ɹ]Ҫ EɪEʮh E `E E ɦ n x iiEɱҨ ɽɨʽ ɹ]{i, Enɱ ɨ V ʨɱE =x ɴvx E l*

+vI ɽn, ɽ {j Vɰ {gx Sɽi Vɺɺ E ɮ nɴɺ ʺVn Mɮx ɱ +Mi VB il ɺiʴEi ɨx + V+ E ʺVn Mɮx i Ex n il Ex Vɨɮ * x ɹ]{i ɽn E V {j 4 nɨɮ, 1992 E ʱJ, ɽ {gE xi -

"ɽɨʽ, ɨVɴn {] E ɹ]Ҫ EɪEʮh E `E E 3 nƤɮ n * +v ʴɴn x ɮ n E xʺEi ixɴ {n E * ɨVɴn {] = ɨɪ, = ixɴ E ʱB ɽ xi E < ʴɴn {h iɴɮh BE Vɽұ Mɨǽ] {n < * +{ ɹ]{i x E xi ɮi ɹ] + ʴvx E ƮIE * ɹ]Ҫ EɪEʮh <x iɨɨ {ʮʺliɪ E ʱB Exp ɮEɮ + =iiɮ |n E .V.{. ɮEɮ E ɨxɰ{ n xi * +Mɮ Exp ɮEɮ x ְ {ɹ] xi +{x< i, i ɽ ʴɺ]E ʺli xɽ {n < i* +V Vɺ +{v{ E n P]xB MVɮ =ɺ ɹ]Ҫ BEi {ʮn E `E E ʽEɮ Ex E ʽi Ex E n, ɴSS xɪɱɪ E xhǪ B xn E +{ɨx E ɹ E ɨx Ex {c * .V.{. E nںɮ V ɮEɮ E j iM{j nE Eɮ- E Ph E * E ɦ xi ʴɮv n +{x j VMɽ-VMɽ, Eɮ- E {ɹ] Ph + xɪ{ʱE E ʴɯr M-Vɨnɮx ɪx n * BE iɮ =iiɮ |n ɮEɮ Eɱ Vx Ex E ɡxɨ +nɱi n + nںɮ iɮ Eɮ- E {ɹ] Ph E VB - < ɮ ɽ Exp ɮEɮ E ɺ Jɨ Eɱ +ɶSɪVxE xɽ , ʱE xxnxҪ *

ɹ]Ҫ BEi {ʮn uɮ, ɴǺɨi {ڮ Ei |vx j E n M<* x + ExpҪ +vǺxE ɱ E ixi {ɮ Ec {B JS Ex E ɴVn =xE n{ɪM x EB Vx ɽ +ɶE ɱɴi E Vɺ iɮ EO ɺx E nx 1949 ʺVn iǪ J M<, EO ɺx E nx iɱ J Mɪ + EO ɺx E nx ʶɱxɺ Eɪ Mɪ il EO ɺx E Jɨ E Sɱi, xɪɱɪ E +n E +ɽx E ɴVn Sɤiɮ E xɨh E Mɪ, = |Eɮ Exp ɮEɮ E x ɽi ɤɮ ʺVn E f n VBM* Exp ɮEɮ E Jɨ n E BEi + +Jbi E ʱB JiɮxE ʺr Ei * +v V MB +v xE ɱ E =iiɮ |n E ɮEɮ ɶxɮ E vɨ nxɨ Ex E Phi Vɶ E uɮ +vǺxE ɱ E xɱ icx E Eɨ E V + Exp ɮEɮ Jɨ * +{ɺ |lx Ei +{ +{x Ei E |ɪM E + ɹ] E < ʤMci iɴɮh E `E Ex E ʱB Exp ɮEɮ E +xhǪ E ʺli ɨ{i Ex E ʱB {ɹ] xn n il ɨVɴn {] `ɴvɨ ɨɦɴ] E ʺrxi ʴɶɺ Ei * ... (ɴvx)

SHRI ANIL BASU (ARAMBAGH): Sir, is there any instruction to stop the display on Television? ...(Interruptions))

Sxxiɱ (ɴEɮ) : +vI ɽn, V EU ֱɪɨ ʺƽ V , =E E< xx ɱ + nJx ɱ xɽ EE ].. xn * E +{x B xn nB ?

... (ɴvx)

SHRI S. BANGARAPPA (SHIMOGA): Sir, let him start afresh from the beginning. ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: No, they are telecasting it. Please take your seat.

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n: +vI ɽn, ʡ i Z n֤ɮ {ڮ {j {gx {cM*

+vI ɽn : xɽ* ]Eɺ] E *

... (ɴvx)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav, they are already on.

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : + ]E] E *

... (ɴvx)

nx ɤɮ ʺVn E Mɮx ɱ nʹɪ E VxEɮ nx J + ʴɶɺ E | + b E vɨ ɽ VxEɮ Vxi iE {ƽS VBM *

+vI ɽn : +{ Sxi i EVɪ EE +{E iɺҮ nJ *

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n (ɨɱ) : +{ɺ |lx Ei E +{ +{x Ei E |ɪM E + BE ɹ] E < ʤMc B iɴɮh E `E Ex E ʱB Exp ɮEɮ E +xhǪ E ʺli ɨ{i Ex E ʱB {ɹ] xn n* ɨVɴn {] `ɴvɨ ɨɴ' E ʺri {ɮ ʴɶɺ Ei + + +{x {ڴ xhǪ {ɮ +bM E +v ʴɴn E +{ɺ iSi +nɱi ɱ E Vx SʽB* +{ɺ M Ei E V ii ʴvx + ɴSS xɪɱɪ E VE E, =x ɹ]p xE iiEɱ Mɮiɮ Ex E xn V ɮEɮ E n* l =iiɮ |n ɮEɮ V ɴSS xɪɱɪ E xhǪ + n E ʴvx E xi+ E ʴ{ɮi +Sɮh E , = +ʴɱƤ JǺi E, ɽ M l*

ɽ Ex Sɽi E x Zɴ ɹ]Ҫ BEi {ʮn n l* = ɨɪ xxҪ Mɽj V l + +V V |vx j V ` , l* = ɨɪ x ɽ Zɴ n l E +Mɮ ʺVn E ʽVi Ex i Exp ɮEɮ E =iiɮ |n E ɮEɮ E JǺi E nx SʽB* = ɨɪ V Vɴɤ n Mɪ, =E {fM xɽ EE ɨɪ ɤn xɽ Ex Sɽi*

... (ɴvx)

+ ]E] x M*

... (ɴvx)

= ɨɪ EO E ʮ` xi + jɨb E ʮ` n VxE xɨ xɽ x Sɽi, =iiɮ |n E Jɨj E ɽ Mɪ* =xx ɽ Sɪ{x E + +{x n EɪEii+

E ʱB +MɮIE ʱɪ + EҤ n P] iE =xɺ iSi E* ɽ xEi {jEɮ E iɪ E =E +V Jɨj Eh ʺƽ E l i < + + ʺVn E E< Jiɮ xɽ + Eh ʺƽ {ڮ iɮ ʺli {ɮ Eɤ { M =iiɮ |n ɮEɮ E JǺiM < ɨɺ E xɽ *" (ɴvx) xɨ xɽ M*

... (ɴvx)

+ ɽ x xɽ n *

... (ɴvx)

= {S nɨɮ E ɮ ɪx + {S nɨɮ E =xE ɪx * `ʺVn E ֮I Jiɮ , ʺVn f n VɪM, ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n'* + +SU MM, i `E + ֮ MM i ʡ E B EM*

... (ɴvx)

+{ nx i xɪ*

... (ɴvx)

E E i i ` EE {ɶSi{ Ei ʡ ] E ʱB ɡ Mi * ɽ i <ʱB SS< x SʽB* ... (ɴvx)

V {ɪɱ] : 1984 n l* +{ M <xE l ` i <xE g n* xɽ i ɽ gi xɽ*

... (ɴvx)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : x 1949 E + iE, E P]x+ E {ʮ|Iɪ +V E E EO E Mɱi xiɪ E Eɮh ɨ|nE Eiɪ E iEi ʨɱ + ɽ +V ii V ` , EO E xiɪ E Eɮh ` *

... (ɴvx)

SHRI RAJESH PILOT : He should answer this. In 1989, there were two. They were all with them. They were together in 1989.

vɴɮ E bxɮ i l + ɽ ʨɱE Sɱ * EO x E =xE l l xɽ ʨɱɪ + x ʨɱɪM*

... (ɴvx)

ʨɱi *

... (ɴvx)

x E <xɺ l xɽ ʨɱɪ*

... (ɴvx)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : ʨj V {ɪɱ] V E i E ֮ xɽ xi + x ɽ ɮ i E ֮ xi * i ɽ xi * =xE ɪ ɺ ʨɱi Vֱi *

... (ɴvx)

ɽ ʴSɮhҪ xi

... (ɴvx)

ɺiɴ xi * +Mɮ ɽ Mɱi VMɽ ` x i i n E xi i* + =xE ɽ ɪ n * =xE ɮ ɪ BE Sɽ Ex E ɮ ɨ|nʪEi E ɮ * =xx Pɹ E Ex <ix Eɮ Ex {cM E +{ 1980 EO +ɪ + x i < S{x Mi * 1954 V l, 1958 V l, 1964 V l, EO Mɱi xiɪ E Eɮh*

... (ɴvx)

=x xiɪ E vɮx M * ɽ EO E Mɱi xiɪ +V n E ɤn E Eɮh * +V V{ E E ʨɱ , Ei ʨɱ VɺE V{ x ɦ =`ɪ *

<ʱB +V < ʤi Ex Sɽi E V ʺli {n E

... (ɴvx)

h E +ɮ (ʪɱni֮<) : +{ ɮ {ƴ {ɮ +E {c ɹ]M xɨɺEɮ EE E Z J j x<B*

... (ɴvx)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : +Mɮ ɽ ɴɱ =`BM, Vɺ xi E <VVi Ei , +V nxɪ xɽ * Vxx E , Mֱɨ xɤ +Vn, BS E B Mi + xɮʺƽ ɴ <E ʱB Mɴɽ * n l VcE { E< {c i +{E xi {c , ֱɪɨ ʺƽ E xɽ {c*

... (ɴvx)

h E +ɮ : +V +{E ɽ ɨlx ʨɱ *

... (ɴvx)

ɨ|nʪEi E BV] ֱɪɨ ʺƽ V M *

... (ɴvx)

+{ ʴɹɪ {ɮ +<B*

... (ɴvx)

+vI ɽn : ֱɪɨ ʺƽ V, + +{ ɨ{i EVB*

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : +vI ɽn, {ڮ xx E iɮ * Vxx { S]x E i E, + =xE +n Ei , xi < nxɪ xɽ * +V n S , Mֱɨ xɤ +Vn, xɮʺƽ ɴ + BS.E.B. Mi, ix Vʴi * n E x ʨxxi E i vx JB +{E xi+ x E , x Jɨj xx E ʱB E x i EO E ɨlx M + x V{ E *

+{ xE Ei , {i ɤE *

... (ɴvx)

<ʱB Ex Sɽi E n ɮiҪ Vxi {] Vɮ xiEi , i xi +nhҪ Mɽ j V, +{ {ɮ Vɮ ɱ E +ɮ{ M l, = ɨɪ x E l, ɮ ɽi l <x ʴSɮ ɽi xɽ l Ex +bh V, ɪ l E ɱ +{E xɨ x ɽ xɽ l * = ɨɪ n E< Ex ɱ xɽ l* ɨVɴn {] =ڱ E i Ei * <ʱB = Ei ʽi E l x ɽ i E l* +{E <VVi Ei * V ɽ,= ɨɪ +{x xiEi E xi Eɦ <iҡ n n l +{E <VVi Ei * +{E {] EV xɽ M* +Mɮ +{ xiEi E xi <iҡ n n i iɮ M*

... (ɴvx)

ɽ Vɰ Ex Sɽi *

... (ɴvx)

ɨ xMx ʨɸ : n E Mɽ j * E< vɮh i xɽ * ɽ Jֶ E i * +{E Vɽ i g * +{x M Sɱɴ< l + x =E ʴɮv E l*

... (ɴvx)

<ɨ Ex xiEi *

... (ɴvx)

SHRI PRAVIN RASHTRAPAL (PATAN): Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav is referring to certain events right from 1954 to 1992, that is the date of event of demolition of Babri Masjid. This is not correct. This august House is concerned about what happened on 6.12.1992 and subsequent actions taken by the Government of India. ... (Interruptions)

ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n : x E E nx BE l E S^-^ * ɹh {ɮ E EO xɮV, E V{ xɮV* ʺVn ]x E ʱB nx Vɨnɮ * +vI ɽn Vxi E ɨI SS< Vxx E ʱB x il nx E ɨI J * ʱɤɮɱ EҶx E i E M< i x ɪx n * = ɪx E n E ɨx =VMɮ Ex E + Vɰi + M< * <ɨ ɽi EU Vxi Ex ɨɪ xɽ x Sɽi* <ix Ex Sɽi E < n E iɴɮh E Jɮɤ Ex E ʱB .V.{. + EO {] nx Vɨnɮ *

|ɪɮVx nɺɨƶ (ɪMV) : +nhҪ +vI ɽn, Vɺ ʴɹɪ E E +{x Z x E <VVi n, +nhҪ |vxɨj V xx E ʱB + =iiɮ nx E ʱB Jn Vn * +{E < ɱ E ʱB v< nx Sɽi * +nhҪ ֱɪɨ ʺƽ V x EO E >{ɮ V |ɽɮ E, =E ɮ ]{{h xɽ Ex Sɽi EE x {ɽ nx E, EO E n֦M ɽ E V M =xE Mɱ ni , =xE ] b i{ڴ j ʱJx E E EO E i *

... (ɴvx)

Eƴɮ +Jɱ ʺƽ (ɽɮVMV, =.|.) : Vɤ xxҪ ֱɪɨ ʺƽ n V {ɽ ɮ =iiɮ |n E J j x l i +{E E{ xɽ x l, Vxi E ɴx x l*

... (ɴvx)


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