<b>XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, <i> Session II (Winter Session) </i> </b>
XIII LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session II (Winter Session) Wednesday, December 15, 1999/Agrahayana 24, 1921 (Saka )


Type of Debate: SHORT DURATION DISCUSSION (RULE-193)
Title: Discussion regarding issue of National security and rise of militancy in various parts of the country especially in North-East and Jammu & Kashmir, raised by Shri Vilas Muttemwar on the 14th December, 1999. (Cont.- Concluded)

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MR. SPEAKER: Now, let us take up discussion under Rule 193. Shri L.K. Advani to reply.

Mɽ j ( ɱ Eh +bh): +vI ɽn, ɤɺ {ɽ ʴɱɺ iiɴɮ + V {ɪɱ] E < i E ʱɪ vxɴn nx Sɽi E =xx < ɽi{h ʴɹɪ {ɮ SS +ɮ E + nx E ɽ +ɺɮ n E n E +iʮE ֮I E ʺli E ʱɪ V E] n E ʴʦxx M + ʴɶE Vɨ + EҮ il {ڴiiɮ V {n + , =E ɮ +{x ʴSɮ |E] E Zɴ n* Z < i E ʴɶ Jֶ E < ɽ 23 xxҪ n x Eֱ ʨɱE M ʱɪ* ɱE ɽ E ɨɪ n P] xvʮi + l Ex ɽ g Sɮ-{S P] ɽ Sɱ* {ڮ i {ɮ E Ei E ɽ ɽ SxiE l*

=ɨ E x E< {<] E Ex E xɽ S E < ɮEɮ x B E, = ɮEɮ x B E = ɮEɮ x E* ɤ xxҪ n E ɹh ix SV MɦM ɨx l, {ɽ SV E E] MƦҮ , = E xɽ xx SʽB* nںɮ SV =ɨ BE ɨʽE E{ =ɮi l E ʺli < E] E xɴɮh Ex SʽB, n E <E >{ɮ =ɮx SʽB + iҺɮ SV ɽ ɮ-ɮ =ɮi l E ɽ ɴɱ B xɽ E Vɺ nMi nʹ] S VB* ʨɱE < ɮ S, ʨɱE <E xɴɮh E* i ɽ ɮ n E SS , Ex |ɺiɴ nx ɱ

particularly in Jammu and Kashmir and in the North-East

<x nx ʽ +M-+M bұ EM* {ɽ Vɨ-EҮ E SS EM =E n {ڴiiɮ Ij E SS EM* xi E < iɤn E iɴ nE iE +iEn {ʮSi xɽ l* n +iEn xɽ l* E-E ʽƺ l* =iiɮ-{ڴ E ʽ E-E x <xɺVx E Eɤɱ E * Ex +iEn Vɺɨ Mxɽ M E i Sɽ Vɤ E n, ɨ ʴɺ] E n, ɺi Sɱi E E i E n Sx-Sx E EU M E ɮ n* < |Eɮ E ʺli iɴ nE iE MɦM xɽ l* E-E +{x EiMi +x֦ɴ E n Ei Vɤ {ɽ ɮ ɮEɮ E ʽ x, ɮV < = ɨɪ |vx j l, Z {Eix Vx E +ɺɮ ʨɱ* Vx-lx ES , ɽ E xɴɺ * <ʱB Vɤ Z =xE xɨjh ʨɱ i ɽ Mɪ l* = ɨɪ ɽ xE ɺx l, V E +V * ES ɽ Sɮ + x E ]Ec nJ< ni l* Vxɮ Vɪ = ɨɪ ɽ E ɹ]{i l* ɽ n nx l* ɦʴE { Zɺ ɽ E Vni {U E +{ E Vx SɽM* x E E +{x xɴɺ-lx + +{x Eڱ Vx SɽM* +{x {֮x iɪ VҴ Ex E ʱB x =xE =J E n* l {Eix E +vEɮ l, V l Sɱi l, Vɽ E ʱB Ei l ɽ l Sɱi l* Vɤ ɽ ɽV { Pڨ l i E< M x =iEiɴɶ {U E ɽ Ex * =xx iɪ ɽ ɮi ɮEɮ E BE ExpҪ j * =xE iVV֤ i l E =xE ɽ i <ix x, <ix ֮I i * ɽ 1978 + 1979 E i M* =x +ɶSɪ i l E ɮi E ExpҪ j ʤx ֮I E ɽ Pڨ + ɮ ɽ Vix ƺn, ʴvɪE + j {ڮ E {ڮ {ɡxʱɪ E Pڨi * ɽ 1977 E i + Vɤ +V Si i + Eix +iɮ Mɪ * +V l E E] EbV Vi , ƺn E l E< ֮IE Vi * E<-E< |n i BE ʴvɪE E l ֮I M< M< * B ʺli , VɺE Eɮh ɽ i =ɮE +i E +iʮE ֮I E iɴɮh {U n nE Vɨx + +ɺɨx E +iɮ Mɪ * ɨZi E ɽ ɪn +Vi Svɮ l, =xE +{x ɹh E +Jɮ V ɪx l, ɽ x l* =xx =J E l

The genesis of militancy in Jammu and Kashmir lies in the 1971 war

B EU +{x E l*

+vI ɽn, =ɨ S< ix SɽM, V EU =xx E, ɽ BE |Eɮ ɽ ʴɶh * 1971 {Eix E V ɮ {ɮVɪ <, =x {Eix E Sx E ʱB Vɤڮ E E hɦʨ ɮi E x E l Eɤɱ Ex ɽV xɽ + ʡ =xx +{x ʨʱ] Vxɮ E l `E hxi n + hxi ni B, V =xE ʴSɮ-ʴɨɹ +, E EU +Jɤɮ U{ , Vxɮ Vɱ = E x +{x ʨʱ] Eb i E E E E + BE ]]V +{xx {cM + =E iɽi BE "]{E" xɨ EɮǴ< Ex xʶSi E Mɪ* ɽ ɹh 1973-74 E ɹh , Ex =E iɮ Ei-Ei + = Fxi Ei-Ei =xE ɨɪ M Mɪ* 80 nE

In the eighties, it was implemented or executed

+ Vxɤr { =xx {Vɤ ְ E*

ɨSɮh E (ɽɺɨxn) : +vI ɽn, +bh V E vx BE i E + +Eʹi Ex Sɽi * < i ɽi M E {Eix x 1985, 1986 + 1987 E +ɺ{ɺ vcE, xb E E ʨɱ]ƺ E gɪ, Sɽ {Vɤ Vɨ-EҮ*

ɱ Eh +bh; , <ɨ <ʱB xɽ Vx Sɽi EE +{x ʴɶh E ɽ ʶɨɱ BOҨ] E n, {Eix x ɺ V EU E, =E ʴ{ɮi Eɨ Ei B, xEҪɮ ɨ E n En gx ְ E*

This was part of an overall strategy.

ʶɨɱ BOҨ] E n E +-

I do not want to score points today, I want to simply point out that.

=E n |E ɮ E Vx +* ɽ 1971 E r + + |E ɮ Vɤ {Eix E S] Mx ְ < + =xE BE |Eɮ M E {Eix |E ɮ ɡ xɽ , =E >{ɮ vҮ-vҮ ɮi +{x +Eֶ Vɨ * iɤ =ɨ EɮMɱ E =i{ii <* EɮMɱ |E E ɮ iҵ E, +iEn E +M g*

So, all the steps of Pakistan result from failure and frustration, not from confidence and hope.

Vix |E ɮ {ɽ l, 1971 V {Eix E ʴɡi ʨɱ, =E {ɮVɪ < + Vɤ |E ɮ ɡ xɽ B, i EɮMɱ E Vx + + Vɤ EɮMɱ ʴɡ B, i <x nx V ʽx nJ , ɽ =ɨ Vx * V nɨ M + <vɮ-=vɮ P]xB , = E {ʮhɨ * E xn xɽ < * +Ec nJi , Ex +Ec E +vɮ {ɮ E nɴ xɽ EM E =xE +iEn E i Vn + ɮ M E E, ɽ xɽ EM* xi E r ɮ <ix xEx xɽ + Vix E |E ɮ +* <ʱB iiɴɮ V x E E ɮ Vix M |E ɮ ɮ MB =ix |iI r xɽ ɮ* {ɺ {U 10 ɱ E +Ec * =xE +xֺɮ xɮҽ xMʮE, ʺʴʱɪx 7,960 ɮ *

I am simply counting the number of toll from 1988-89 onwards.

ʨɱ]] E ʺEʮ] ɱ ɮi *

Ten thousand seven hundred and twenty seven militants had been killed during the same period though the cost that we have had to bear is the death of 2,039 securitymen.

2039 ʺEʮ] x ɮ ɮ Mɪ* =xE E< ʺEʮ] x xɽ ɮ Mɪ* +|iI r, |E ɮ E V ɤɺ c xEx , ɽ ɽ E

It is our securitymen, our Jawans, our Armymen, our paramilitary forces' men who are being killed and not one from the Pakistan side. On the other hand -

r i i =ɨ ɮ 400 M EɮMɱ ɮ Mɪ i =xE 600 ɮ Mɪ + ɤ ʺEʮ] x ɮ Mɪ* =xE ʺEʮ] x ɮ Mɪ* =xE E< ɺxɮV xɽ l* ɤ |ɪ& ɺxɮV l* +SU i +Mɮ E< , V V x =J E E BE ɮ VҴ V x E E E E 1990 {ɺ i xɽ {ɽS VɪM* ɽ xi E Vɨ EҮ V =Oɴn + , =ɨ

The worst years were 1989, 1990 and 1991. These were the worst years. But that phase continued for a long time.

ɽ iE E Vɨ EҮ + JɺE EҮ P], =ɨ +VʴE E |ɨJ +vɮ , ɽ {ɪ]x , ]ʮV *

Tourism has absolutely dried up.

{ɺ ]ʮV E +Ec , V E +ɶSɪEɮE * 1995 ɮ ɮiɴɹ bʺ]E ]ʮ] 322 Mɪ* 1996 375, 1997 7029, 1998 99,636 + 1999 1,94,32 ]ʮ] Mɪ * x 1999 E V +Ec iɪ =xɨ 1,10,345 +ɮxl E jɪ E xɽ Mx * =xɨ h n V 4 J j Mɪ , =xE xɽ Mx * xi E ɽ V {nb * ɽ E ʺli xɨ E + g xɽ g , <E {x E

This is a more correct barometre rather than the number of people killed.

Eix M ɮ Mɪ, Eix M xɽ ɮ Mɪ, =ɺ Vn <E {ɨ] xi EE ƺ + ʺEʮ] Vɤ M iɦ M VɪM, xɽ i xɽ VɪM* V 322 M BE ɱ Mɪ * 375 M BE ɱ Mɪ , E< Vx E iɮ xɽ * ɽ iE E =x <Ǫɺ x nJ E {ɽ ʴn +i l, n xɽ Vi l* Ex Vɤ BE P]x < Vɺɨ +M-+M n +ɪ B {S ʴnʶɪ E +{ɽh E ʱɪ Mɪ + Mɪɤ Mɪ, xɽ ʨɱ* +V iE =xE ʮinɮ +E Z ʨɱi * =xE B䨤b +E ʨɱi * =x xɽ JV {ɪ + Ei E S x , Ji Mɪ * Ex ɽ V BE {ɨ] , = {ɨ] E +vɮ {ɮ ʴɶɺ i E Sɽ E]{h ʺli , Sɽ ʽƺ +V * ʽƺ E {ڮ iɮ ɨ{i xɽ E {ɪ Ex <E >{ɮ ʴVɪ +ɶ {ɪM, ɽ BE ʴɶɺ x + ɽ ʴɶɺ = ʴɶɺ E BE +vɮ ɮ +{x {Vɤ E +x֦ɴ* BE ɨɪ l Vɤ {Vɤ , E< ɮ Vi l + Mi l E ɽ i EU nM xɽ* ɽ EU {ʮix +ɪM xɽ* ɽ i ɱ ɱ iE B SɱM* ɨ E cE xɺx Vi l + Pɮ E< xɽ xEi l* Ex {ʮix +ɪ* {ʮix +x E ʱB Ei + +V Ei E =iiɮ {ڴ E < ɽ ` , V Zɺ +E +Oɽ Ei E {ʨʱ] V, x V, ɽ V +n* ɤE Ei E {Vɤ E +x֦ɴ < i E ii E =Oɴn E >{ɮ +Mɮ ʴVɪ {x , i ɽ ɽɪE M* +ɨ x ɽɪE M, +nv xE ɱ ɽɪE M* Ji: ɽ E Vxi, = |n E ɮEɮ, = |n E {ʱɺ ɽ V ix ii , =x ii E +vɮ {ɮ ʴVɪ |{i M + <E Vɨ EҮ Ƥv * Vix j ɽ E Vxi, ɽ E ɮEɮ, ɽ E lxҪ {ʱɺ =E < i E ʱB iɮ E Ei E <E Eɤɱ EM, <E ɨ{i EM, =ix j ɡi ʨɱM*

< ɡi Exp ɮEɮ E x + {-ʨʱ] {ʱɺ ɽɪE M* Ex Eɱ Exp ɮEɮ E x + {-ʨʱ] E +vɮ {ɮ < E] E xɴɮh Ʀɴ xɽ * Vɨ EҮ E i E Sɽ =iiɮ {ڴ E i E, xi E <x nx ɤɺ +SU ʺli V < , ɽ ɽ E 1989-90-91 E |ɮʦE ɹ Vix =Oɴn l, |ɪ: l VxE {Eix, +<.B.+<. E M Vɨ EҮ VE, ɽ |ʶIh nE {ɺ Vi l* vҮ-vҮ V E Vɨ EҮ E M E Vx E i , ɽ Ji i M<* ʴMi ɹ Vix M Mɮiɮ i , ɮ Vi , |ɪ: Vɨ EҮ E xɽ , ɽi E {ɮ]V , +vEƶ {ɮ]V {Eix, +Mxɺix E , + E< n E * E-E x E ɴɱ E =iiɮ iɪ M E Eix-Eix M E-E n E l VxE ɮ Mɪ*

But all of them are mercenaries recruited by Pakistan to be sent here as cannon fodder.

V =xE, ɮ+ =xE* <ʱB ɮ x E M Ei E < c< ɮ ʺEʮ]Ҩx ɮi , =xE xɽ ɮi* Ex +SU Ih ɽ E ɮ ɽ M xɽ Vi, E Vi * vҮ-vҮ =xE J E i M< * Vix j ɽ M =ix j E ɡi ʨɱM* ɽ SV =iiɮ {ڴ E ʱB E Ei * ʴMi ɹ JɺE +ɨ B P]xB < Vɽ {ɮ xMʮE x =Oɴn E ʴɮv E + =Oɴn E {EcE ʱS E * ɴVxE { ʴɮv i E , Vɮ E J <E_ E =xx |]] E E <E ɮnɶi xɽ EM* {ɺ +xE B =nɽh +B , SxB ʨɱ Vɺɨ E< Vɱ < |Eɮ E P]xB < * f֤ɮ b]E] n P]xB <, ɮ{] n P]xB <, Eɨɯ{ n P]xB <, xɱɤc <, =nMɮ xɨ E BE lx <* ɨx < |Eɮ E +` +M-+M P]xB +< Vɽ {ɮ +ɨ Vxi x ɴVxE { ʽi EE, ɽ EE = E +iEn E |i +{x |E] E , I |E] E * ɽ ʺli Vix g EM =ix < ɨɱ ɡ M*

V V x BE i E, {i xɽ E E* =xx E E {Vɤ + Vɨ EҮ E S ʺEʮ] ʮ]b BE{bSɮ +iɮ E Ei * xɽ Ei* ʺEʮ] ʮ]b BE{bSɮ V {Vɤ E ni l +V Vɨ EҮ E ni * E-E {ɮ lc ʴɴn i E ʺEʮ] ʮ]b BE{bSɮ EE x V Ei * ɽ ʴɴn iɪ E i * E Ei E x +V iE Vɨ EҮ V E ʺEʮ] ʮ]b BE{bSɮ E xɨ MɦM 1498 Ec {ɪ nB*

... (ɴvx)

x iɪ E +Mɮ E< ʴɴn i ɽ < i {ɮ E <E ʺEʮ] ʮ]b BE{bSɮ x VB xɽ + = ] +=] E i * x < ɱ ʺEʮ] ʮ]b BE{bSɮ E xi 18 Ec {ɪ nB * t ʴɹh l + =xx E l, ɽ E l E ɮ x, ɮ +vǺxE ɱ E +ɴ +V +iEn E Eɤɱ Ex E ʱB V ʴɱV bƺ E x , ɽ ɽi <E] *

=xE + gx E =xx Vɰi ɽں E* < i E Eɮ Ei + =xE VxEɮ nx SɽM E EE JS = ɨɪ |n E ɮEɮ Ei , h]ű MɴxǨ] =E +ɺ Ei * Vɤ <x ..W. E xx E xhǪ + l i 12885 ..W. E J l, Ex x =xE Exɴ E E 18,000 ..W. E JS +ɺ EM*

Z ɽi Jֶ E xl <Ǻ] +xE n x +{x-+{x ɪ J * xl <Ǻ] xɽ, {ʶSɨ Mɱ E Sɮ n l* Eh V Vɤ l E ɮ ɽ {ɮ +<.B.+<. E E] + =E Sxi Ex SʽB* =xE E Ei E ɽ V Sxi =xx |E] E, Sxi =xE |n E Mɽ j x +E Zɺ |E] E* EU nx {ɽ {ɺ +ɪ l + E E +{ Vɤ +<.B.+<. E SS E l, +iʮE ֮I E ʱB +<.B.+<. x V E] {n E , =xE VF E Ei i +{E ɴVxE Eiɴ Vɨ-EҮ E =J i , {Vɤ E =J i , xl <Ǻ] E =J i , Ex {ʶSɨ Mɱ E =J xɽ i * +{E ɽ Ex +ɪ E {ʶSɨ Mɱ ɽ ɨɺ MɨҮ + =ɨ Exp E ɮEɮ + {ʶSɨ Mɱ E ɮEɮ nx ɽEɮ EE, ʨɱE =E Eɤɱ E, ɽ ɱ nx +ɪ l* x =xE E E i +{E Elx E Mi Ei * <ix Vxi E +<.B.+<. E Miʴvɪ E ɮ < ɮEɮ x n ɮ + ʴn BE iɴɮh {n Ex E BE |ɨhE Eʶɶ E + ɽ E E ɽ ɨɺ Eɱ E V E xɽ * Fɺ bǮ ]ʮV E +Mɮ ɨʽE { ʴɶ ɮ E ɦ n Eɤɱ Ex E ʱB x xɽ xBM + SM E `E , ɽ ɮi E ɨɺ M, <ɨ ɨɺ E Eɮh EҮ , <E Eɮh {Eix EU E , =E + =nɺx M i =E JʨɪV ʴɶ ɮ E Mix {cM, ɮ nxɪ E Mix {cM, ɽ x ʴɶ ɮ x E Eʶɶ E * E Ei E n < |Eɮ E VMi {n Ex E Eʶɶ x SʽB* i nJ l E <x {U n ɱ <ix ɴɱ xxҪ n E + +<.B.+<. E Miʴvɪ E ɮ Vxx E ʱB +ɪ * =E {ɽ E ʱɺ] xEɱ i 1991 E 1997 iE x nJ E ɽi E ɴɱ + ɽ +SU i + < Eɮh Vɤ BE ɮ Mɽ jɱɪ E Exɱ]] E] E ]M < l i = Exɱ]] E] E ]M n P] E {ڮ |Vh]x ɮ ʴɦM x, Mɽ jɱɪ x E l E +<.B.+<. x E |Eɮ +{x Miʴvɪ g< * =E nJx E n ɦ n Vix ɽ {ɮ ={ʺli l, xl ɤ ɽ {ɮ ={ʺli l, xiɴɱ V ={ʺli l, ɤ x = ɨɪ E, ɽ E{x +< E < |Eɮ E SV n E ɨx Jx SʽB + ɽ {ɮ M l, ɪn xiɴɱ V x M E E < {ɮ <] {{ɮ |Eʶi x SʽB* ɽ <] {{ɮ |Eʶi Ex E ʴSɮ ɮEɮ E * =ɨ EU Eɮh EU ʴɱɨ + , Ex ɽ Q |Eʶi E VɪM + +{E ɨx J VɪM* <ix E Ei *


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