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... (ɴvx)

SHRI M.O.H. FAROOK (PONDICHERRY): Sir, the discussion can be spilled over till tomorrow. It is already eleven o'clock and there are still many more Members to speak. How are we going to manage it?

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Ten more Members are there, apart from the thirteen Members whose names were called and who were not here. Most of them are now here again. I do not know how we are going to finish before 12 o'clock. I think we will have to do something. If all those Members whose names were called can lay their speeches on the Table and if these ten Members take five minutes each, then only we will be in a position to finish. Otherwise it will be very difficult to do so because most of the Members are now sitting here and Minister's reply is also going to be there.

SHRI M.O.H. FAROOK : Why do we not have it tomorrow?

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: How much time you need, Shri Nitish Kumar?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI NITISH KUMAR): It all depends upon you, Sir. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Let me hear the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs also.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR): Sir, there is a lot of business and we do not have much time left for that. So, we want that this discussion should be over today.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If the House agrees, then I shall ask the Minister to reply.

SHRI M.O.H. FAROOK : We have no objection at all, Sir.

SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR): Sir, if the Members want, they can lay their speeches on the Table.

SHRI M.O.H. FAROOK : Sir, we are taxing the MPs., the officers and all others concerned. There was an understanding to stretch it out till eleven o'clock. But then you are stretching it again. Let us sit for the whole day. Our mind also should work. I cannot understand why the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs is pressing too hard for this. It is not that we do not want to cooperate; we are prepared to cooperate.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I think all the parties have participated. If the House agrees, I shall now ask the Minister to reply. Not a single party is now left out. What the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs has suggested is true also. We have a very lengthy list of business to be transacted. How many days are left now? So, if the House agrees, I shall call the hon. Minister to reply.


MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You see, I called the name of Shri Athawale but he was not present here.

SHRI ANIL BASU (ARAMBAGH): Sir, since six o'clock when the discussion started, I have been sitting here. For a few minutes only I went outside.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Whether it is five minutes or ten minutes, Shri Basu, I called your name but you were not here. I do not know whether you were here or you were outside. I called hon. Member, Dr. Kusmaria's name. He was not here; he is sitting here now. Shri Athawale's name was called, Shri Mahale's name was called. All these names were called. Whether you were in the Lobby or outside elsewhere, I do not know that.

I do not know that. I called all of you. You were not here.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI ANIL BASU (ARAMBAGH): No sir. It is not that. I was here. ...(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : To be fair to all ...

... (Interruptions)

SHRI M.O.H. FAROOK (PONDICHERRY): Sir, my submission is that we can take up the reply tomorrow.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let me tell you one thing. Either the House has to resolve that the hon. Minister will give his reply now or ...

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We may have to sit for at least two more hours. There are still 23 Members.

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Sir, the Members will not be able to have their food.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Members have gone and they have been taking their food.

SHRI J.S. BRAR : Sir, my only concern is that those Members who have given their names should be allowed to speak. It is only possible if we take it up tomorrow.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri Brar, I came and occupied the Chair at 8 p.m. It is almost three hours that I have been sitting here. We are only conducting the business of the House. Some Members are taking undue time and delaying. The same things are expressed. After all, if the cooperation comes from both the Government and the Opposition, then only we will reach to a point. My suggestion is that one or two persons from this side and the other side may speak. If the Government also cooperates, we will conclude this early by calling one Member from this side and another from that side. We will take some 15-20 minutes and then we will ask the hon. Minister to reply. He can reply to it if all of you cooperate.

SHRI ANIL BASU : Sir, we are cooperating from the very beginning. This is an important discussion. Almost 70 per cent of our population is undergoing this problem. ...(Interruptions) All the nation's economy is in peril.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri Anil Basu, from your Party Shri Roy has spoken.

SHRI ANIL BASU : Sir, he has spoken only half portion. He has not made all the points.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Members from your Party and their Party have spoken. I called Shri Tur from Shiromani Akali Dal who has participated in the debate now. Members from almost every Party have spoken. If you cooperate, one or two persons from each side can be allowed.

SHRI ANIL BASU : No Sir, we have not taken our food. We have made our points. ...(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : If you do not, then one of you may come and relieve me. You conduct the House till one o' clock and then let the Minister reply. After all, I am also a human being. I am sitting for three hours. I cannot sit more than that. There should e some cooperation from every quarter.

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SHRI ANIL BASU : Sir, all the legislative business will not consume much time. They are all very small Bills. ...(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : All of you are talking the same things.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY (SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN): Sir, we have to pass the Supplementary Demands. The Demands for Railways are there. These are the financial matters. These have to be completed. ...(Interruptions) Let me complete. If you want me to talk, then let me talk. Otherwise you speak and I will listen. ...(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : You hear the hon. Minister now.

SHRI ANIL BASU : Sir, the Supplementary Demands for Railways are coming on Monday.

SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN : Sir, if you recall, the discussion under Rule 193 is allowed for two to two-and-a-half hours. All subjects are important. I do not say that this subject is more important than that subject. All subjects are important. We scheduled this for yesterday. Yesterday due to some other business we could not complete it. We scheduled it again for today. We have given almost double the time which was due.

Sir, we know that the Supplementary Demands for Grant (General) and then Supplementary Demands for Grant (Railways) have to be passed. There are some other Bills pending. All these Bills have to go to Rajya Sabha. We have to discuss WTO.

Whenever any discussion starts, people say that this is the most important discussion under the sun and they want maximum time for it. It is not possible. Let us complete it today. I think, Members from all the political parties have spoken. Let the hon. Minister answer it. People can speak on some other subject. This is not the end of the day today. ....(Interruptions)

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