SHRI KALKA DAS(Karol Bagh): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to draw the attention of the Government to a matter of serious concern. There is a butchery near Idgah in Delhi. This was set up when the population of Delhi
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in general, and those of non-vegetarians was very less. But today the population of Delhi has increased manifold and same is true about non- vegetarians. (Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: I think you are a vegetarian.
SHRI KALKA DAS: I am a non-vegetarian...(Interruptions)... Its does not matter whether one is a vegetarian or a non-vegetarian.
Thousands of animals are slaughtered and this butchery is in the midst of densely populated area. Many times the blood of animals spreads on the road and sometimes it trickles to the drinking water supply pipes.
The carcass of animals could also be found on the roads sometimes. As a result there is hue and cry in the entire area and fould smell continues to emanate from the butchery. Earlier it was away from the densely populated areas but now it is in the midst of these areas. It has become almost impossible to live in the area. Not only this, because of dead animals lying here and there, there is heavy traffic congestion in the area and even the traffic police has written many times that the butchery should be shifted elsewhere where the density of population is less. This is a long standing demand of the people of the area and they are greatly agitated over it. Therefore, I would like to urge that this butchery must be shifted from there. Otherwise, there is every possibility of a law and order problem and things may deteriorate. It is likely that the patience of the people may give way. Therefore, I would like to draw the attention of the Government to this serious problem and would urge to shift this butchery to an area where the density of population is less...(Interruptions) SHRI TARA CHAND KHANDELWAL (Chandni Chowk): When this butchery was set up the area was not as densely populated as it is today. I had paid a visit to the area about six days back. There is not even a single day when I do not receive less than 10-12 people from the area requesting me to raise this matter...(Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: You want to say that it
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should be shifted immediately outside the city.
SHRI TARA CHAND KHANDELWAL: That is what I want to say.
SHRI MOHAN RAWLE (Bombay South Central): Mr. Speaker, Sir, `Hindi Divas' was celebrated on 14th September and Doordarshan and Akashvani gave programmes also on this occasions. But unfortunately, we have failed so far in making Hindi a national language. We have a national anthem, a national bird, a national animal and a national flag, but so far we do not have a national language. Even Babu Rajendra Prasad, the first President of India and one of Founding Fathers of our Constitution had remarked that gradually Hindi should be accepted as a national language and it should be not merely treated as official languages.
I, therefore, urge the Government, through you, to declare Hindi as the national language.
DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA (Mandsaur): Sir, there was a proposal to open many Kendriya Vidyalayas throughout the country which was accorded approval also. There was also proposal to open Kendriya Vidyalayas in Mandsaur and other places in Madhya Pradesh. The academic session has already commenced. There are hundreds of Central Government employees in Mandsaur who have school going children.
Therefore, it is essential to open Central Schools there, otherwise they may not get admission elsewhere. Therefore, I would like you to issue instructions immediately for opening Central Schools in Mandsaur and other places in Madhya Pradesh.
SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN (Sasaram): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the freight equalisation policy has been ivogue for a long time in Bihar particularly in respect of coal and steel. Shri Krishnachari had emphasized the need to follow this policy for a short period way back in 1985. But this policy is still continuing. Consequently, a poor state like Bihar is
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suffering. Iron ore and coal is in abundance in Bihar. If this freight equalisation policy had not been in vogue, the price of iron ore and coal would have been less as compared to other States and industrilisation would have got encouragement as a result thereof.
Therefore, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to urge the Government to do away with freight equalisation policy so that encouragement could be given to industrialisation in Bihar.
SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): I want to raise a matter which is affecting power generation in West Bengal because of the inadequate supply of coal, not only quantity-wise but also quality-wise, because, I am told, that coal not of the standard quality but in big blocks and chunks has been sent, containing ashes and not which is required for the thermal power generation.
When the matter was taken up, the Coal India said that the Railway administration was not providing the wagons and that is why coal supply was hampered. And the Railways say that the Coal India Limited was not loading the wagons in time and properly, and the wagons were waiting in the sliding, therefore the difficulty is being, created.
There appears to be some discard between the Railway administration and the Coal India Limited. The hon. Railway Minister is here. I am requesting him to kindly see that supply of coal is made in time. The hon. Minister for Coal Shri Sangma is not here. He may also kindly see that the proper quality coal is supplied, not coal in big chunks and blocks which is not suitable for power generation.
This is a very vital matter and I am requesting the hon.
Ministers concerned to kindly look into it.
SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA(South Delhi):There was shooting by
accident by a
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security guard outside the residence of Leader of Opposition, Shri Lal Krishna Advani Yesterday. Two days back there was a similar shooting incident outside the residence of Chief Justice of India. This is my information and I would like that this may be confirmed by the Government...
MR. SPEAKER: There is difference between shooting by accident and a shooting incident.
SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: The security guard who was involved in the shooting incident outside the residence of the Chief Justice of India was under the influence of liquor and when I asked the PA at the residence of Shri Advani about yesterday's incident, he said the security guard had consumed liquor. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to submit here that we have already witnessed the assassination of Shrimati Indira Gandhi when her security guards shot at her. Shri Advani is on the top of the hit list and therefore, the Government should reconsider the security arrangements and give fresh directives that negligence of this type will not be tolerated. The gauards who are posted at the residence of Ministers and other top politicians should never be under the influence of liquor. I want to bring this fact to the notice of the hon. Home Minister.
SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would not have raised this matter but for the implications both within the country and outside the country in regard to the matter that I am now raising.
This pertains to a film which has been produced by an agency called "Eye Witness" and which is making the rounds of the country since the first of this month. And it is also being exhibited in other countries of the world. The film is on the Rajasthan Atomic Power Station. In this film, there are a series of scenes. I have seen this film specially when this matter was brought to my notice. And there is also an interview with Dr. K.S. Parthasarathy, who is the Secretary of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board and who is responsible for safety 64 Re. Situation arising out of deployment of army in Assam
standards at all atomic energy installations in the country.
Dr. Parthasarathy's interview is consequent upon a request made to the Prime Minister and to the Minister for Public Grievances, Shrimati Margaret Alva by the producers, `Eye Witness'. That means, his presence there was with the approval of the Prime Minister, who is in-charge of the Atomic Energy.
Now, Sir what does this Script say? I would not read all of it.
But there are certain aspects which need to be brought to the notice of the House. It starts with a commentary, which says:
"Alarming news emerged last year of birth defects in villages near an atomic power station in India. We went to Rajasthan to film this story".
This was the opening sentence. Then it goes on to say this. Here, this is the person who is associated with the unit making this statement. He says:
"The cooling systems of RAPS that is the acronym for Rajasthan Atomic Power Station land are cooled by water and that water is returned into the same river from which it is drawn. The effect of the radiation of the water means that it definitely contaminates the river. Besides there have been leakages of heavy water more than once due to the negligence of the authorities.
The water is let off into the river and that is the water we drink".
SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Was it Dr. Parthasarathy's statement?
SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: No, one of the persons who lives there made this statement.
This film has been seen by Dr. Parthasa-
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rathy, and he has responded to it. I will come to his response in a moment.
Then, the commentary says that because the Doctors refused to speak, the person who shot this film met, what we call, the nurses and others who help in the delivery of babies. Now, there is one Mr. Munir Ahmed, who says:
"We do not know what is happening. I do not know if it is fate or what is causing the defects in our region. And it is happening only in our area within a radius of 25 kilometers. Even the young men are losing their manhood".
Then, there was another question, `are the young men affected too?. And his reply was:
"Yes, they say so. They are young men and they do not say these things out of shame but some have said so."
Then the commentary says that they went and saw the local midwives. They were questioned.
The conversation with Nandu Bai, another midwife, is as follows: "Q: How many deformed children are there?
A: Four or five.
Q: Has the number increased in the last two to four years?
A: There have been more such children.
Q: Earlier such a thing never happened?
A: This has never happened before and it is happening now." Then a child was shown and Tulsi Bai,
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another midwife was asked:
"Q: Was he born with the deformed ear?
A: Yes, he ha been like that from birth.
Q: Also the double thumb?
A: Yes, he has two thumbs."
Then there is a commentary which says:
"Other damaged children we found included this little boy had two sets of incisors and was born with no penis. We checked that none of the children we were shown were in fact polio victims. They had all been born deformed. These girls' legs are paralysed." (Those girls were exhibited).
Savitri Bai, another midwife says:
"Earlier there were 25 children born in a year, now there are 50.
I see the child when it is born. I can see what is wrong with it.
If it is deformed it has only half the fingers. Sometimes they have no fingers at all. Some have no hands or noses. Some have abnormal growth of hair."
Then in reply to questions she further says:
"Q: Is it awful to look at?
A: It is not just the faces, it is the whole body that is
Q: So you don't even show it to the mother?
A: No, we didn't.
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Q: Why not?
A: If we showed the baby to the mother she would have been scared to death. That is why we don't tell them."
Then there is a commentary which says:
`What you have here is a plant which is known to have a particularly bad safety record and you also have an unusual incidence of genetic damage in the surrounding population. You also know that tritium is discharged to the environment." This is a part of the transcript.
Dr. Parthasarthy was interviewed on this. And what does he say?
He says that this Atomic Energy Power Plant was shut down 250 times in ten years. Then he says that once it was shut down for as long as three years. When he was told about this water being discharged, he said:
"This is the water we, we means, I don't belong to the Department of Atomic Energy but the people who work there who are in the township they drink this water."
Then he was asked as to what you are doing about it.
MR. SPEAKER: Who is Mr. Parthasarthy?
SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Dr. Parthasarthy is the Secretary of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board, who is responsible for the safety standards of all atomic energy power stations of the country. And he was sent there to be interviewed after a request was made to the Prime Minister and Mrs. Margaret Alva, Minister of Public Grievances. Now the statement which Dr.Parthasarthy has subsequently made is far too serious to be taken very lightly. When
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he was asked: When these things are happening, what are you doing about it, he feels that whatever has been shown or whatever is happening has nothing to do with the atomic energy power station. He accepted the fact but he refusedto link those facts with the situation that is on the ground at the atomic energy power station.
I do not want to elaborate. I only want that the Government must immediately react to this particular situation. Now they have reacted in one respect and how? The man who madethis film, is a person called Christopher Richard. I have been requesting you for the last three days to allow me to raise this matter. But I appreciate your reluctance to call me because you decided that you would like to hear a large number of Members who did not have an opportunity.
Mr. Christopher Richard, who madethis film and who is an independent producer, is a British citizen. he made this film for Channel 4. It was exhibited in Britain and is being exhibited elsewhere. He is making a film in India at this moment for BBC for which the Government gave him the clearance. Day before yesterday, when he applied for his visa to come back to India, I got this information that he was told that the visa would not be given to him perhaps because - this has not been conveyed; this is my conjecture - he made this film on the Rajasthan Atomic Energy Power Station. This is the only response of the Government of India. The man who unravelled a certain situation, brought before the country a certain situation, which needed to be brought before the country, is now being told that you are a persona non grata in our country. Now, that is the matter which I will deal separately with the Government. But, on this question which I am raising, Minister of State of the Ministry of Environment, and Forests Shri Kamal Nath, is sitting here, is responsible for most of the aspects, that have been happening there.
MR. SPEAKER: Please do not drag him because he has no information about Atomic Energy.
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MR. SPEAKER: Well, I must caution that there is a lot of
literature with you on Atomic Energy which is not supported by scientific facts.
SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Sir, therefore, there are some views on this. But, there is the question of pollution of the water. The water pollution matter is a fact. It is a fact that deformities are there.
Now, if we take this view that this has nothing to do with what is happening there - this is precisely what a lot of people have said earlier - then we had Chernobyl, and in Chernobyl we know what is happening. We have gone through the experience of Bhopal and the kinds of things, the kind of deformities, the kind of baby deaths that are taking place in Bhopal. It is a situation that brings tears in my eyes. Therefore, I would certainly like the Government to respond to this, if not today by tomorrow. But, I would certainly like the Minister for Environment at least to respond to this whole question of water pollution, a fact which cannot be denied. Thank you very much.
SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Dr. Parthasarthy may have nothing to do with the Atomic Power Station. But, if such deformed childrens are born, the Government must look into it. In a particular area why that is happening? The Minister is here. He should respond. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: This Department wa with me for four years. I know that many reports are published. I know also that many of the reports are not supported by scientific facts. Now, we shall have to be very careful.
SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, in view of your personal
experience, we should guide them also.
SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Sir, this plant is situated adjacent to my constituency. The points raised by hon. Shri George Fernandes are valid because I have person-
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ally gone there. When these facts came to my knowledge, I made efforts personally to inspect the Atomic Energy Plant. I was not permitted to enter the plant and my repeated requests were ignored. Reports are being received regularly over there that because of the pressure of the plant, children are becoming deaf, blind and acquiring physical deformities. I request the Government to take this matter seriously.
One unit of the plant suffers a breakdown every now and then. We have to find out the cause of all these problems... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: This has been discussed many times.
SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Efforts were made to give training. What is unfortunate is that we have accepted the Bhopal Gas Tragedy.
MR. SPEAKER: There is no need to go into all that.
SHRI DAU DAVAL JOSHI: God forbid, if such a thing happens there then it would be a replay of the Bhopal Gas Tragedy. So I request the Government to take precautionary steps to ward off any tragedy.